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    Very Good interview from Boxing News. Very close to the fight to read too much into it but Cleverly may call it a day. Nathan Cleverly reflects on crushing loss to Sergey Kovalev: 'I remember thinking if he catches me, I'm gone' | Latest | Boxing News
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Very Good interview from Boxing News. Very close to the fight to read too much into it but Cleverly may call it a day. Nathan Cleverly reflects on crushing loss to Sergey Kovalev: 'I remember thinking if he catches me, I'm gone' | Latest | Boxing News
    what a bitch, the first time he steps it up against decent opposition who isn't shot to shit and he gets owned and how does he respond to losing? like a spoiled little kid who picks up his ball and storms off home, I said it in an old thread, Cleverly would get whooped any time he stepped it up, that it was hilarious when people said he'd actually have a chance against B-Hop and the other top guys at Lt Heavy

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    Default Re: Cleverly Speaks

    Yes, I don't care about his 'style'... he's just not cut from the same cloth.

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    What do you mean 'What a bitch'? He was pretty candid and honest and he stepped up and fought someone who is potentially the danger man of the division. He lost and he admits the better man won. It's hardly bitching, is it now?

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    So a guy who's just been smashed on Saturday takes a phone call on Sunday and he's feeling a bit sorry for himself and a bit lost.

    Yeah what a pathetic loser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    So a guy who's just been smashed on Saturday takes a phone call on Sunday and he's feeling a bit sorry for himself and a bit lost.

    Yeah what a pathetic loser
    no, what makes him pathetic is that he's contemplating retirement on that loss alone, it says a lot about how much heart he really has if he's willing to call it quits after a single loss, IMO just as bad if not worse than Freitas, Calderon, Duran, and others quitting in the ring, at least they did it while taking the lumps, hell him quitting in the actual fight wouldn't be as pathetic as if he retires off that loss alone...

    Ortiz took fire and hell for saying something similar why would you think it would be different for Cleverly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    So a guy who's just been smashed on Saturday takes a phone call on Sunday and he's feeling a bit sorry for himself and a bit lost.

    Yeah what a pathetic loser
    no, what makes him pathetic is that he's contemplating retirement on that loss alone, it says a lot about how much heart he really has if he's willing to call it quits after a single loss, IMO just as bad if not worse than Freitas, Calderon, Duran, and others quitting in the ring, at least they did it while taking the lumps, hell him quitting in the actual fight wouldn't be as pathetic as if he retires off that loss alone...

    Ortiz took fire and hell for saying something similar why would you think it would be different for Cleverly?
    Did you read the article?
    He is saying that in the past he always said he will retire when he loses, but that now it's happened will he stick to it or not? He hardly come across as a bitch. He is just very disappointed and thinking out loud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Very Good interview from Boxing News. Very close to the fight to read too much into it but Cleverly may call it a day. Nathan Cleverly reflects on crushing loss to Sergey Kovalev: 'I remember thinking if he catches me, I'm gone' | Latest | Boxing News
    what a bitch, the first time he steps it up against decent opposition who isn't shot to shit and he gets owned and how does he respond to losing? like a spoiled little kid who picks up his ball and storms off home, I said it in an old thread, Cleverly would get whooped any time he stepped it up, that it was hilarious when people said he'd actually have a chance against B-Hop and the other top guys at Lt Heavy

    What does a fight with Hopkins have to do with a fight with Kovalev? Whats so hilarious about those of us who thought/think he can beat him? Style wise Kovalev is more suited for Hopkins then Cleverly is. Whats hilarious is people who are anointing Kovalev as the next coming of Christ while at the same time shitting on Cleverly.

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    Cleverly could beat B hop by out working him. Getting beat by Kov shows us nothing about how he would do against Hopkins as they are completely different fighters. The difference in this fight was Kovs power and that was it. With B-hop u don't have to worry bout that

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    Calzaghe was 10 times the fighter, with twice the workrate and not everybody is convinced that even he beat B-Hop.

    Even with Hopkins being older now than when he fought Joe, there is still a huge gulf in calibre.

    Workrate alone isn't enough to beat skill, just ask ricky hatton.
    Calzaghe had workrate, but he also had an X-Factor that Cleverly simply doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Calzaghe was 10 times the fighter, with twice the workrate and not everybody is convinced that even he beat B-Hop.

    Even with Hopkins being older now than when he fought Joe, there is still a huge gulf in calibre.

    Workrate alone isn't enough to beat skill, just ask ricky hatton.
    Calzaghe had workrate, but he also had an X-Factor that Cleverly simply doesn't.
    I agree with what you say but I think Kov would KO Calzaghe too. It's not a fight to judge how he would perform against Hopkins because he's a completely different fighter. I also think Kov would KO Hopkins and I hope the fight happens. Hopkins v Clev would be a very close fight IMO but I'd say Hopkins experience gives him the edge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Cleverly could beat B hop by out working him. Getting beat by Kov shows us nothing about how he would do against Hopkins as they are completely different fighters. The difference in this fight was Kovs power and that was it. With B-hop u don't have to worry bout that

    How anyone can still feel this way is a bit of a laugh, honestly. Is Hopkins suddenly some kind of flower puncher? Cleverly doesn't have a clue how to defend himself from what I've seen, the old man would punish him badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Cleverly could beat B hop by out working him. Getting beat by Kov shows us nothing about how he would do against Hopkins as they are completely different fighters. The difference in this fight was Kovs power and that was it. With B-hop u don't have to worry bout that

    How anyone can still feel this way is a bit of a laugh, honestly. Is Hopkins suddenly some kind of flower puncher? Cleverly doesn't have a clue how to defend himself from what I've seen, the old man would punish him badly.
    You have to say Hopkins would outbox him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Cleverly could beat B hop by out working him. Getting beat by Kov shows us nothing about how he would do against Hopkins as they are completely different fighters. The difference in this fight was Kovs power and that was it. With B-hop u don't have to worry bout that

    How anyone can still feel this way is a bit of a laugh, honestly. Is Hopkins suddenly some kind of flower puncher? Cleverly doesn't have a clue how to defend himself from what I've seen, the old man would punish him badly.
    You have to say Hopkins would outbox him.

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    Hopkins would run him into every punch in the book and stop him before the late rounds, is what I have to say. Outboxing him would just be part of it.

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