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It is very good. It merits his p4p mention. I would caution that to consider it great one necessarily rates Froch and Kessler highly, as they are his two most significant wins.

Froch's resume arguably is close to as good as Ward's, but he'll always be a step behind in ranking because he lost to Ward and he lost to Kessler in their first fight. However, Froch has wins over Pascal, Bute, Andre Dirrell, and Kessler too, the first three of which Ward doesn't have. I know some people thought Froch lost to Dirrell, but at least Froch fought Dirrell. We don't know what would have happened had Dirrell fought Ward.

Where does Ward go now? There doesn't appear to be anyone else at super middleweight for him to face. There are a bunch of contenders at 175 in Stevenson, Kovalev, Hopkins (GB), and the Pascal/Bute winner, but if he doesn't need to step up in weight, should he do so and take the additional risk?

GGG is a potential future foe, but GGG has a stacked division to take care of first. I'm not sure why he would jump up to face Ward now, when he could take on the other top guys at middleweight first.

Dirrell is a basket case, who says he wanted to fight Ward at any point? It would have happened if the super six had panned out differently, and I'd agree that's a hard style for Ward but he's so much tougher upstairs. Bute for all we know was fairly content being fed mid level guys in his backyard until the Froch beatdown, you don't think Ward would've taken that fight instead? He's in a bad spot because guys he beats are still worth a lot more money than he is, it's hardly a knock on his resume surely.
What your saying Ward is not entertaining.!
I'm always entertained by boxing at a high level, but yes even I don't relish watching him fight and totally understand some people not liking him at all. He's a very smart fighter, clearly the 2nd best boxing brain out there imo, but just doesn't have the physical tools to put any sizzle on top of it all. He was trying to be Roy Jones for a while before he fought anyone half decent and it got him in big trouble. If he was just a tad faster, or had a bit more pop he would be torturing guys.