Fury is going to shock us against Haye!

[erics44]

Well if it doesn't show Haye has a good defence maybe it shows he has a strong chin? Fury has been down more than Haye at heavyweight?

Yeah, by people who weigh over 200lb

Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?

Considering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.

or a better defence

And a better defence.

But Haye definitely has the stronger chin. Even ross can't prove that wrong. Fact.

and 3,2,1...

Lolenga Mock

A cruiser weight that gets splattered by a super middleweight with only 12 kos from 31 wins (6 from 21 at the time they fought which is why he was chosen) does not have a good heavyweight chin

if any feather fisted supermiddle can knock him down he must have a good defence then as he hasn't been put down as a HW from a thump on the chin
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Apart from Barrett.

Who has Haye beaten at heavyweight that was ever regarded as a banger on the world scene?

You can dress up statistics all you want but the reality is Hayes heavyweight opponents have been chosen for the sole purpose of getting to Wlad. He was always banging on about the Sanders fight and thought he could replicate that with his speed. He was wrong and this fight is a retirement fund.

we aren't talking about who haye has beaten at HW, we can have that conversation in a bit if you want

we were talking about haye having a rubbish defence and/or a rubbish chin

so far in this thread you have said he has both

so does he have a rubbish chin and a rubbish defence? or is it one or the other?