Fury is going to shock us against Haye!

[ross]

OK then - Fury is shit because he was shit against John McDermott in their first fight as was gifted a decision. Are you a bit retarded?

Fury reversed that with a KO win. Haye has done nothing to reverse his losses

Spastic

As I said no point arguing with you about this cz u are too emotionally invested. My point was that Haye was not tagged by Wlad, the best heavyweight in the world. Therefore his defence must be ok. You say because he was hit by Ruiz his defence is shit.

I'm probably one of the few who actually think you know a bit about boxing but you are far too blinded by emotions in this fight.

Oh Haye felt the weight of a few of Wlads shots which is why he spent half the fight on all fours.

[Dark Lord Al]

OK then - Fury is shit because he was shit against John McDermott in their first fight as was gifted a decision. Are you a bit retarded?

Fury reversed that with a KO win. Haye has done nothing to reverse his losses

Spastic

As I said no point arguing with you about this cz u are too emotionally invested. My point was that Haye was not tagged by Wlad, the best heavyweight in the world. Therefore his defence must be ok. You say because he was hit by Ruiz his defence is shit.

I'm probably one of the few who actually think you know a bit about boxing but you are far too blinded by emotions in this fight.

Oh Haye felt the weight of a few of Wlads shots which is why he spent half the fight on all fours.

Were as if Fury had taken Wlads shots he wouldn't be on all fours he would be looking at the ring lights.

[erics44]

OK then - Fury is shit because he was shit against John McDermott in their first fight as was gifted a decision. Are you a bit retarded?

Fury reversed that with a KO win. Haye has done nothing to reverse his losses

Spastic

As I said no point arguing with you about this cz u are too emotionally invested. My point was that Haye was not tagged by Wlad, the best heavyweight in the world. Therefore his defence must be ok. You say because he was hit by Ruiz his defence is shit.

I'm probably one of the few who actually think you know a bit about boxing but you are far too blinded by emotions in this fight.

Oh Haye felt the weight of a few of Wlads shots which is why he spent half the fight on all fours.

I wont advocate hayes performance against wlad but I would argue he spent half his time on all 4s because of the leaning rather that the punching

[ross]

OK then - Fury is shit because he was shit against John McDermott in their first fight as was gifted a decision. Are you a bit retarded?

Fury reversed that with a KO win. Haye has done nothing to reverse his losses

Spastic

As I said no point arguing with you about this cz u are too emotionally invested. My point was that Haye was not tagged by Wlad, the best heavyweight in the world. Therefore his defence must be ok. You say because he was hit by Ruiz his defence is shit.

I'm probably one of the few who actually think you know a bit about boxing but you are far too blinded by emotions in this fight.

Oh Haye felt the weight of a few of Wlads shots which is why he spent half the fight on all fours.

I wont advocate hayes performance against wlad but I would argue he spent half his time on all 4s because of the leaning rather that the punching

Thats why the ref warned Haye in the end? Did he get a point deducted?

When Chambers fought Wlad and Wlad tried the leaning stuff, Chembers lifted him up in the air and threw him down a couple of times and the ref warned Wlad for leaning not Chambers for wrestling. So you cant say the refs are biased for Wlad.

[erics44]

OK then - Fury is shit because he was shit against John McDermott in their first fight as was gifted a decision. Are you a bit retarded?

Fury reversed that with a KO win. Haye has done nothing to reverse his losses

Spastic

As I said no point arguing with you about this cz u are too emotionally invested. My point was that Haye was not tagged by Wlad, the best heavyweight in the world. Therefore his defence must be ok. You say because he was hit by Ruiz his defence is shit.

I'm probably one of the few who actually think you know a bit about boxing but you are far too blinded by emotions in this fight.

Oh Haye felt the weight of a few of Wlads shots which is why he spent half the fight on all fours.

I wont advocate hayes performance against wlad but I would argue he spent half his time on all 4s because of the leaning rather that the punching

Thats why the ref warned Haye in the end? Did he get a point deducted?

When Chambers fought Wlad and Wlad tried the leaning stuff, Chembers lifted him up in the air and threw him down a couple of times and the ref warned Wlad for leaning not Chambers for wrestling. So you cant say the refs are biased for Wlad.

ha, no you could never say that



anyway like we have already discovered, haye has a weak chin and a rubbish defence

a weak chin as shown from a fight early in his career against a super middleweight and a rubbish defence as shown from the wlad fight, absolutely conclusive evidence

both very solid and extremely valid arguments

well done @ross, you really are the knowledge of boxing

[ross]

Thank you

I win

[erics44]

Thank you

I win

yep

anyway, now I have won that part of the debate we can have the who haye has fought at HW conversation so I can make it @erics44 2 @ross 0

although I would say its very kind on you if I was only 1 up so far

[Beanz]

Fury is not as fast as Haye, not as powerful as Haye, not as good offensively or defensively as Haye, quite why the great lolloping lumox is supposed to suddenly transform overnight into a fighter more capable than Wlad is beyond me. A British reff will not allow Fury to lean as much as Wlad or employ the dirty krap he used against Cunningham. He is doomed. Can't wait till he gets sparked out and then slinks off, not a day too soon.

[erics44]

Fury is not as fast as Haye, not as powerful as Haye, not as good offensively or defensively as Haye, quite why the great lolloping lumox is supposed to suddenly transform overnight into a fighter more capable than Wlad is beyond me. A British reff will not allow Fury to lean as much as Wlad or employ the dirty krap he used against Cunningham. He is doomed. Can't wait till he gets sparked out and then slinks off, not a day too soon.

all good points very well made

I don't think its that one sided tho

Fury is big and he seems to have a lot of heart, could be a lot closer fight than people are suggesting

[Dark Lord Al]

Fury is not as fast as Haye, not as powerful as Haye, not as good offensively or defensively as Haye, quite why the great lolloping lumox is supposed to suddenly transform overnight into a fighter more capable than Wlad is beyond me. A British reff will not allow Fury to lean as much as Wlad or employ the dirty krap he used against Cunningham. He is doomed. Can't wait till he gets sparked out and then slinks off, not a day too soon.

all good points very well made

I don't think its that one sided tho

Fury is big and he seems to have a lot of heart, could be a lot closer fight than people are suggesting

Let us also not forget Haye has no defence and a weak chin. Did you guys know he was floored by a Super Middle , he did win the fight but logic says that years later and now at HW , even though he went the distance with Wlad , Haye will be knocked out by Fury , it is so obvious.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Thank you

I win

yep

anyway, now I have won that part of the debate we can have the who haye has fought at HW conversation so I can make it @erics44 2 @ross 0

although I would say its very kind on you if I was only 1 up so far

Hang on.

I though Wlad had a point taken away from him

[erics44]

Thank you

I win

yep

anyway, now I have won that part of the debate we can have the who haye has fought at HW conversation so I can make it @erics44 2 @ross 0

although I would say its very kind on you if I was only 1 up so far

Hang on.

I though Wlad had a point taken away from him

yeah he did dint he

but then there was the knockdown that was from a clear punch lean

[VG_Addict]

Love how people say Haye "barely" beat Valuev. Sure, he fought scared, but he still clearly landed the cleaner punches throughout the fight.

[ross]

Thank you

I win

yep

anyway, now I have won that part of the debate we can have the who haye has fought at HW conversation so I can make it @erics44 2 @ross 0

although I would say its very kind on you if I was only 1 up so far

Hang on.

I though Wlad had a point taken away from him

Hmm...

I havent even pondered the possibility of Fury having a glass back.....

[ross]

Go to 3.30 in. Malik Scott talks about his sparring with Fury and Furys chances against Wlad who he also sparred with.

Malik Scott on Tyson Fury Price and Arreola - EsNews Boxing - YouTube