Roy jones jr..what exactly happened?

[imp]

Age. He got a little bit older and slower and didn't have technique and thus he kept getting knocked out being a bit chinny. Not exactly rocket science.

Age is off course a factor but we are talking pre tarver johnson - post ruiz.

The first tarver fight he won showed alot of things.

[Master]

1. Roy would have been regarded as one of the greatest, if not the greatest, ever boxer if he retired after the first tarver fight

2. It was the muscle loss that ended Roys reign with age another factor which slowed him down.

3. Roy got caught with a peach of a shot but at his best he would have avoided it.

4. Roy destroys southpaws and all styles at his best.

[jon09]

Roy is 1 of the ATG's. But ego, age and poor decisions really made him look bad in his twilight career.

[ross]

All things lead to desire.



























Or steroids.....

[imp]

All things lead to desire.



























Or steroids.....

Werent they legal when he took them?

Or is that a rumour.

[ross]

He was caught with something ilegal that was an ingredient of a sports suppliment.

Wouldnt it be easy though to find a sports suppliment that has whatever cheaty drug you want to take and use that as an excuse after being found cheating?

[Andre]

Most older men who get into a fix seem to do so cause their mind thinks like a 20 to 30 year old.( I am one I know of this stupidity well):
The old neurons cant fire down the channels as fast anymore but we still think like they can. So our legs walk our heads into stuff we can no longer take as well and once there, cant fire fast enough to get us out of the situation as fast either so to survive we have to think differently. If you sit in a good paddock a few times or dont train naturally or use roids or play with your weight in any way after middle age you are probably going to slow down even faster than someone whos done nothing, so you will have to choose your future marks even more carefully and fight a different fight.
Roy should of given up thinking about head hunting after he failed to catch a few of his chickens by hand.

[IamInuit]

He was caught with something ilegal that was an ingredient of a sports suppliment.

Wouldnt it be easy though to find a sports suppliment that has whatever cheaty drug you want to take and use that as an excuse after being found cheating?

It was ripped fuel and its not a steroid. It was purchased over the counter at drug stores and he was only accused of using it once and it was in the Richard Hall fight. Of course the story spun out of control at the time because his accuser Richard Hall tested 14 times higher then Roy did for the same product.

Roy should have quit after the Ruiz fight instead of tearing down muscle to make 175 at his age. Ego won the day just like it continues to do. I may rank fighters higher then him on weight lists but that's cause he never stayed long but even at those weights like 160 and 168 I dont see anyone in history beating him in his prime. Not many could match him at 175 either except maybe Langford or Charles.

[Hulk]

1. Roy would have been regarded as one of the greatest, if not the greatest, ever boxer if he retired after the first tarver fight

2. It was the muscle loss that ended Roys reign with age another factor which slowed him down.

3. Roy got caught with a peach of a shot but at his best he would have avoided it.

4. Roy destroys southpaws and all styles at his best.

Its sad, but true.

To me, and some others on this forum, he is still the best of all time. He was out of this world. As VD was saying, its incomprehensible just how much better he was than everyone else and that included guys like James Toney and Vrigil Hill.

Look at Reggie Johnson's resume and then see how totally outclassed he was by Roy.

[Gandalf]

Age. He got a little bit older and slower and didn't have technique and thus he kept getting knocked out being a bit chinny. Not exactly rocket science.

Age is off course a factor but we are talking pre tarver johnson - post ruiz.

The first tarver fight he won showed alot of things.

I think he just looked old, it was a very laboured win by his standards.

[Spicoli]

Roy got bored at the same time age was tapping him on the shoulder. He was pure reflex and instinct and he just didn't develope that second fundamental gear to call on. The heavy-Tyson talk was ludicrous and once that was over he didn't go back to fighting a Woods, Gonzalez or Kelly, but he fought a rebounding Tarver who had his own chip on the shoulder not to mention his previous trinkets and was a better boxer than Jones had faced in some time. Honestly Tarver did a great job at mind gaming Roy, getting under his skin and self promotion and Roy's clock simply ran out in rematch.

[ykdadamaja]

Should have retired after the first Tarver fight... at best, after the third Tarver fight. To me, Tarver got a gift decision in the third fight.

[Master]

Should have retired after the first Tarver fight... at best, after the third Tarver fight. To me, Tarver got a gift decision in the third fight.

Thought Roy had a classic round 5ish but lost the fight.

[imp]

Should have retired after the first Tarver fight... at best, after the third Tarver fight. To me, Tarver got a gift decision in the third fight.

Thought Roy had a classic round 5ish but lost the fight.

Roy lost the third fight without a doubt

[Hulk]

Should have retired after the first Tarver fight... at best, after the third Tarver fight. To me, Tarver got a gift decision in the third fight.

Thought Roy had a classic round 5ish but lost the fight.

Roy lost the third fight without a doubt

Yes, in the 5th round only the old Roy Jones returned, but then just as quickly disappeared and the sad old gun shy shell of his former self returned.