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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez credentials?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    This fight will go just like all of Floyd's other fights. Floyd will look at him for a couple of rounds and then start picking him apart, I don't see why he would change this pattern.
    Canelo will be applying cautious aggression for the first round or so and then try to step it up from the third or so.
    I think Floyd is as good as he will ever be, not everyone is a Floyd Mayweather but on the other hand not everyone is a Bernard Hopkins, so I see Floyd slowing a little every fight from now on. Floyd is an amazing fighter, athlete, with an amazing boxing IQ and is as dedicated a gym rat as you'll see. Did I say Floyd is amazing? but everyone has to deal with age, it could be this fight or a couple of fights from now.
    Canelo's biggest chance is Nacho Beristain. If there is a fault in Floyd's boxing, Nacho is one who can see it.
    I don't think Floyd has any faults in the ring, he is poised, always in position, doesn't make big mistakes and does not lose concentration.
    Unless Nacho has something up his sleeve, it's going to be up to Floyd whether Floyd wins or not, in my opinion.
    I'd be tempted to say that this is incorrect, and that very early in the fight, as Mayweather opts to adjust on the fly, he isn't operating at 100%.



    That is Canelos best and probably only shot at beating Floyd, catching him out very early and stopping him. How likely that is of happening though is very low IMO as Floyd will probably be super cautious for the first few rounds not allowing Canelo to get close at all, and probably for the entire fight.
    The 2nd right hand is the one that buckled him and hurt him more. Either way he wasn't caught due to lack of concentration. Mosley just set him up. A quick jab that got Mayweather's attention and than the followed up right that Floyd never saw coming
    Surely that has to be related to his concentration though, as he never got caught with that shot again. anyway, all my point demonstrates is that Mayweather isn't fully switched on to his opponent until he figures them out due to concentration or not and adjusts, which is normally a couple of rounds, 4 max...

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez credentials?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    This fight will go just like all of Floyd's other fights. Floyd will look at him for a couple of rounds and then start picking him apart, I don't see why he would change this pattern.
    Canelo will be applying cautious aggression for the first round or so and then try to step it up from the third or so.
    I think Floyd is as good as he will ever be, not everyone is a Floyd Mayweather but on the other hand not everyone is a Bernard Hopkins, so I see Floyd slowing a little every fight from now on. Floyd is an amazing fighter, athlete, with an amazing boxing IQ and is as dedicated a gym rat as you'll see. Did I say Floyd is amazing? but everyone has to deal with age, it could be this fight or a couple of fights from now.
    Canelo's biggest chance is Nacho Beristain. If there is a fault in Floyd's boxing, Nacho is one who can see it.
    I don't think Floyd has any faults in the ring, he is poised, always in position, doesn't make big mistakes and does not lose concentration.
    Unless Nacho has something up his sleeve, it's going to be up to Floyd whether Floyd wins or not, in my opinion.
    I'd be tempted to say that this is incorrect, and that very early in the fight, as Mayweather opts to adjust on the fly, he isn't operating at 100%.



    That is Canelos best and probably only shot at beating Floyd, catching him out very early and stopping him. How likely that is of happening though is very low IMO as Floyd will probably be super cautious for the first few rounds not allowing Canelo to get close at all, and probably for the entire fight.
    The 2nd right hand is the one that buckled him and hurt him more. Either way he wasn't caught due to lack of concentration. Mosley just set him up. A quick jab that got Mayweather's attention and than the followed up right that Floyd never saw coming
    Surely that has to be related to his concentration though, as he never got caught with that shot again. anyway, all my point demonstrates is that Mayweather isn't fully switched on to his opponent until he figures them out due to concentration or not and adjusts, which is normally a couple of rounds, 4 max...
    It could. But it can also just simply be, Mosley threw a good one, two combination.

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez credentials?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
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    This fight will go just like all of Floyd's other fights. Floyd will look at him for a couple of rounds and then start picking him apart, I don't see why he would change this pattern.
    Canelo will be applying cautious aggression for the first round or so and then try to step it up from the third or so.
    I think Floyd is as good as he will ever be, not everyone is a Floyd Mayweather but on the other hand not everyone is a Bernard Hopkins, so I see Floyd slowing a little every fight from now on. Floyd is an amazing fighter, athlete, with an amazing boxing IQ and is as dedicated a gym rat as you'll see. Did I say Floyd is amazing? but everyone has to deal with age, it could be this fight or a couple of fights from now.
    Canelo's biggest chance is Nacho Beristain. If there is a fault in Floyd's boxing, Nacho is one who can see it.
    I don't think Floyd has any faults in the ring, he is poised, always in position, doesn't make big mistakes and does not lose concentration.
    Unless Nacho has something up his sleeve, it's going to be up to Floyd whether Floyd wins or not, in my opinion.
    I'd be tempted to say that this is incorrect, and that very early in the fight, as Mayweather opts to adjust on the fly, he isn't operating at 100%.



    That is Canelos best and probably only shot at beating Floyd, catching him out very early and stopping him. How likely that is of happening though is very low IMO as Floyd will probably be super cautious for the first few rounds not allowing Canelo to get close at all, and probably for the entire fight.
    The 2nd right hand is the one that buckled him and hurt him more. Either way he wasn't caught due to lack of concentration. Mosley just set him up. A quick jab that got Mayweather's attention and than the followed up right that Floyd never saw coming
    Surely that has to be related to his concentration though, as he never got caught with that shot again. anyway, all my point demonstrates is that Mayweather isn't fully switched on to his opponent until he figures them out due to concentration or not and adjusts, which is normally a couple of rounds, 4 max...
    It could. But it can also just simply be, Mosley threw a good one, two combination.
    It's a timing thing. It's absurd how good his timing is but evidently it must take a little while for Floyd to dial it in. Judah and even Ortiz showed that genuine hand speed early on is an actual obstacle for Floyd. He vowed to used more movement in the Cotto fight (presumably to offset this factor) but still ended up in a fair scrap.

    I've always thought that patience but more-so persistence would be key against Floyd. If Canelo can insist on applying educated pressure regardless then it keeps him in the mix. Which is all he needs to be.
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    Mosley did better than Canelo!!!! -_-

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