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    Default Re: Things I took away from tonight's fight.....

    I don't think losing to the greatest fighter of this generation (and one the best fighters of all time) when you're 23 and still learning constitutes being "exposed". Why are we ready to throw Canelo under the bus? He lost to Floyd Mayweather. Everyone Mayweather has ever fought has lost to Floyd Mayweather.

    There's a lot of "moving parts" to Floyd's style, it's not as simple as the keyboard tacticians would like to think. It's not a matter of "ohh move forward and throw punches". I think it was unreasonable to expect Canelo to be able to solve that kind of puzzle at this stage in his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    it's not as simple as the keyboard tacticians would like to think.
    It was simple enough for a good try: watch Cotto and DLH and build upon it. What Gasnelo do? He started to box...

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    if Canelo wasn't ready after nearly 45 pro fights and nearly 10 yrs as a pro fighter, he never was going to be, despite the fact that he's only 23

    people need to stop using that as an excuse, his age was one of his biggest advantages going into the fight so it's ridiculous that people are now trying to make it into a handicap, he also was bigger and 15 lbs heavier, so he had 3 major advantages going into the fight and well he just lost to the better man, IMO he was hyped more than the media but I'm not gonna go down the route of most people and say the kid was "exposed" there are plenty guys he can still fight and beat, and he can still move up and have a credible career, his defense has improved and his poise would help him out up in the higher weights with slower opponents

    if he decides to move up to 160 (which IMO he shouldn't yet, there are still fights to be made at 154), he should take on Barker that would be a good fight

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    Floyd will not get beat.
    There are no other great fighters around to challenge him.

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    How the hell are they going to sell his next fight. Unless he starts fighting two people at the same time the usually people who buy the ppv hoping to see floyd lose won't even bother. I think they will really struggle to sell his last 4 fights he looked too good last night.

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    Jay Nady, who I thought was a decent referee, was terrible last night. I can't remember when a referee tried harder to influence the outcome of a fight. In my opinion, he lost the fight for Ishe Smith, due to backlash against his constant harping about Molina's every move. I hope Nady will look at a replay because he does have a great Marine salute, plus I don't want to believe he is corrupt.

    Canelo and his people were smart to turn down a fight with Floyd when he was 19, he wasn't ready then and he was not ready last night. Floyd has not slowed down at all. Almost everything they say about Floyd's ability as a fighter is true. Canelo is honest, he only offered one excuse and it was the truth.

    Adrien Broner pisses me off faster than anyone. He reminds me of a clown who is not funny, every time he opens his mouth I grind my teeth.

    Danny Garcia is the man, with a chin to match. Wow! That was a terrific fight and great performance by both fighters. Lucas Matthysse has nothing to be ashamed of, his chin is rock solid too. Danny's chin, hand speed, combinations and positioning were the deciding factors in the fight.

    I didn't learn this last night but I'd like to give my opinion anyway, the Card girls don't get enough attention and they allow too many people in the ring, which makes the Card girls harder to see.

    It being the US, the judging was was a combination of good, bad and very ugly. Nothing new learned there either.

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    Floyd is not worth the money he is paid.
    Floyd will not knock out anyone who has not got his hands up.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Things I took away from tonight's fight.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    if Canelo wasn't ready after nearly 45 pro fights and nearly 10 yrs as a pro fighter, he never was going to be, despite the fact that he's only 23

    What about any of Canelo's 45 opponents would even come close to preparing him for a Floyd Mayweather? Floyd has been a world champion and fighting world class guys since '98. 15 years, compared to Canelo's 2 years as a champ. And really, Austin Trout is looked at as the only legit 154lb threat he's fought.

    He did all he could. He just didn't have the knowledge on how to crack Floyd, which is nothing to be ashamed of because a lot of great guys have tried and failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I don't think losing to the greatest fighter of this generation (and one the best fighters of all time) when you're 23 and still learning constitutes being "exposed". Why are we ready to throw Canelo under the bus? He lost to Floyd Mayweather. Everyone Mayweather has ever fought has lost to Floyd Mayweather.

    There's a lot of "moving parts" to Floyd's style, it's not as simple as the keyboard tacticians would like to think. It's not a matter of "ohh move forward and throw punches". I think it was unreasonable to expect Canelo to be able to solve that kind of puzzle at this stage in his career.




    He shouldn't have been there in the first place.
    That much is clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I don't think losing to the greatest fighter of this generation (and one the best fighters of all time) when you're 23 and still learning constitutes being "exposed". Why are we ready to throw Canelo under the bus? He lost to Floyd Mayweather. Everyone Mayweather has ever fought has lost to Floyd Mayweather.

    There's a lot of "moving parts" to Floyd's style, it's not as simple as the keyboard tacticians would like to think. It's not a matter of "ohh move forward and throw punches". I think it was unreasonable to expect Canelo to be able to solve that kind of puzzle at this stage in his career.




    He shouldn't have been there in the first place.

    That much is clear.
    Who should have been there then? And don't say Martinez, who is both well on his way to being shot and fights two weight divisions above Mayweather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    He shouldn't have been there in the first place.
    That much is clear.
    In hindsight we can say that, sure. I didn't hear anybody calling it a gross mismatch beforehand, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    He shouldn't have been there in the first place.
    That much is clear.
    In hindsight we can say that, sure. I didn't hear anybody calling it a gross mismatch beforehand, though.
    One of my if not my biggest pet peeves of modern day boxing. The speed in which people are written off.

    Lose a fight and you are overrated. Pathetic. Drive through fucking boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    He shouldn't have been there in the first place.
    That much is clear.
    In hindsight we can say that, sure. I didn't hear anybody calling it a gross mismatch beforehand, though.
    One of my if not my biggest pet peeves of modern day boxing. The speed in which people are written off.

    Lose a fight and you are overrated. Pathetic. Drive through fucking boxing.
    It is not just boxing. This is the philosophy of the modern world nowadays

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    He shouldn't have been there in the first place.
    That much is clear.
    In hindsight we can say that, sure. I didn't hear anybody calling it a gross mismatch beforehand, though.
    One of my if not my biggest pet peeves of modern day boxing. The speed in which people are written off.

    Lose a fight and you are overrated. Pathetic. Drive through fucking boxing.
    It is not just boxing. This is the philosophy of the modern world nowadays
    Good point. Still considering what this sport entails it should set itself apart from this plastic instant gratification world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    He shouldn't have been there in the first place.
    That much is clear.
    In hindsight we can say that, sure. I didn't hear anybody calling it a gross mismatch beforehand, though.
    One of my if not my biggest pet peeves of modern day boxing. The speed in which people are written off.

    Lose a fight and you are overrated. Pathetic. Drive through fucking boxing.
    It is not just boxing. This is the philosophy of the modern world nowadays
    Good point. Still considering what this sport entails it should set itself apart from this plastic instant gratification world.
    I remember Roy Jones was expressing this thought, that boxing commentators always "beat" fighters, especially after they fail. They are labeled washed up / over the hill immediately
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