Mayweather needs new challenges

[0james0]

I think he could actually clean up middle weight. No KO's, but out box a win against all of them.

Super middles just wouldnt work, they are still small enough to be agile, yet they could walk right through him. He'd probably fair better (if you did start doing circus fights) against someone much bigger and slower.

Now also seems a good time to mention the whole heavyweight, weight differences. We talk about a fight not being able to happen with Floyd because of 15lbs, yet Haye is giving away 3 stone to Fury this weekend! Is it really that much different? It wouldn't make it impossible.

Floyd though is not going to want to disadvantage himself in any way though.

[Beanflicker]

I think Floyd might be flying too close ot the sun if he choses to go up to MW or SMW. Floyd said himself he woke up the day of the fight at 146, which means that he's not cutting weight for WW, so he most likely is a natural 140lber. Going up and taking the 160lb punch, especially from a guy like Golovkin, would be murder. Even if he's taking it on his arms, physically I don't think he can stand up to that kind of power and I don't think he'd have enough power at that weight to keep guys from charging him.

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... also, I believe Froch and/or GGG sparks Mayweather out cold. Moreso Froch.

I don't think we have been watching the Carl Froch since he made the comeback and won the title by disgracing Lucian Bute. He is a very different Carl Froch. No one, aside from WArd (more of his size and can take a Super Middle punch) is able to deal with Froch at this stage.

A Ward/Mayweather fight would be interesting, but we know it won't happen.

Floyd would more than likely take a Sergio Martinez fight and beat him soundly....

Mayweather won't want a GGG fight. Too much power and too accurate. It's not necessarily the speed, but the size and the punch accuracy- which is much better than Canelo's or anyone else in the business.

What the fuck has Golovkin done at all to be mentioned in the same breath as Mayweather?

The fact that people would seriously even talk about Mayweather fighting anyone like Ward, Froch, or Hopkins kind of tells the whole story. These men are so much bigger than him it would almost be a sideshow. It's a shame Martinez isn't a few years younger as he's a small middle and that would've been a great fight.

This is why I think Floyd would piss all iver him.

With Floyds movement and sharpness he could do the same at super middle. When you look at it Canelo was a middle anyway. If he hadnt fought Canelo and faced Garcia instead everyone would still be raving about Canelo and how Floyd would be scared to face him because of the size but Floyd not only faced him he pissed all iver him. Out of all the super middle champs, Froch would be the easiest for Floyd to hit and the biggest name.

I always used to think that a fighter moving up would just get beaten up but everyone seems to be doing it nowadays. Dont forget we are talking a very special talented, skilled fighter. He isnt getting hit for the strength to make a difference.

Mayweather has already moved up so much, he is actually weighing less in the ring than he does making 150 for weigh ins. Froch and Ward are really big guys in comparison, they have been at 168 since they were young men, when Floyd was still a featherweight. I don't give Floyd a realistic chance against people like that, it's a mind boggling size disparity. How exactly would Floyd approach training for a supermiddleweight fight, is he going to bulk up to 161 for the weigh in, or just give up 15 pounds instead. Either way it's not even really a fight as much as a sideshow, he'd lose strictly due to size which is never what you want to see.

Ward started pro at middle...

Floyd wouldnt need to bulk up,he just beat the biggest deal at light middle who routinly weighs more than Froch does in his fights.

I think he could actually clean up middle weight. No KO's, but out box a win against all of them.

Super middles just wouldnt work, they are still small enough to be agile, yet they could walk right through him. He'd probably fair better (if you did start doing circus fights) against someone much bigger and slower.

Now also seems a good time to mention the whole heavyweight, weight differences. We talk about a fight not being able to happen with Floyd because of 15lbs, yet Haye is giving away 3 stone to Fury this weekend! Is it really that much different? It wouldn't make it impossible.

Floyd though is not going to want to disadvantage himself in any way though.

Yeah... Froch

[Fenster]

Hold up - Floyd could beat Golovkin at 160 and Froch/Ward at 168? I bet he can't wait to try that. Fucks sake...

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Hold up - Floyd could beat Golovkin at 160 and Froch/Ward at 168? I bet he can't wait to try that. Fucks sake...

Hold up...

Who is the best at middle? Not Golovkin, its Martinez. If Mayweather moves up, he beats Martinez.

[Fenster]

Hold up - Floyd could beat Golovkin at 160 and Froch/Ward at 168? I bet he can't wait to try that. Fucks sake...

Hold up...

Who is the best at middle? Not Golovkin, its Martinez. If Mayweather moves up, he beats Martinez.

If they weigh 160?

[ross]

Hold up - Floyd could beat Golovkin at 160 and Froch/Ward at 168? I bet he can't wait to try that. Fucks sake...

Hold up...

Who is the best at middle? Not Golovkin, its Martinez. If Mayweather moves up, he beats Martinez.

If they weigh 160?

They could weigh 154.5 and they could legitimately fight for the middle weight title.

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In fact, im surprised Canelos fans havent tried crying that Floyd only came in at 146lb so how can he fight at light middle

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Floyd will never ever fight above 154.
Floyd sr will never allow it.

If bradley beats marquez he deserves the fight for may 3rd...but hes with top rank so yet again theres no way bob will make that happen.

Trout wont sell.
Martinez should have lost to murrey.
Will khan beat alexander?
Is Garcia ready yet?
Pacman - toprank
Bradley - toprank

Why not give judah another payday..will be fun for 6 rounds!

Or cotto 2.

Canelo would prob beat all the fighters mentioned.

Floyd is on another level..for such a small guy.

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Floyd will never ever fight above 154.
Floyd sr will never allow it.

If bradley beats marquez he deserves the fight for may 3rd...but hes with top rank so yet again theres no way bob will make that happen.

Trout wont sell.
Martinez should have lost to murrey.
Will khan beat alexander?
Is Garcia ready yet?
Pacman - toprank
Bradley - toprank

Why not give judah another payday..will be fun for 6 rounds!

Or cotto 2.

Canelo was a massive star and I think theyve shit the bed here. Mayweather could have fought Garcia while Canelo continued to build his star power. Now they have left themselves in a position where they have nothing better to move on to unless Mayweather fights Martinez at middle.

None of those names are as big as Canelo was and showtime will realise this and push for something equally as big. They arent spending £200 million on Khan or Bradley

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Floyd will never ever fight above 154.
Floyd sr will never allow it.

If bradley beats marquez he deserves the fight for may 3rd...but hes with top rank so yet again theres no way bob will make that happen.

Trout wont sell.
Martinez should have lost to murrey.
Will khan beat alexander?
Is Garcia ready yet?
Pacman - toprank
Bradley - toprank

Why not give judah another payday..will be fun for 6 rounds!

Or cotto 2.

Canelo was a massive star and I think theyve shit the bed here. Mayweather could have fought Garcia while Canelo continued to build his star power. Now they have left themselves in a position where they have nothing better to move on to unless Mayweather fights Martinez at middle.

None of those names are as big as Canelo was and showtime will realise this and push for something equally as big. They arent spending £200 million on Khan or Bradley

Yep. They could have made even more money out of it.
Fed canelo a few more welterweights amd make that fight further down the line.
I feel as though there was a massive empty feeling after the fight..floyd could have retired there and then if he wanted too.
As much as theres loads of uk fans for floyd i cant see him fighting in the uk and leaving vegas.
Khan should fight the pac/rios winner if he beats alexander.

[X]

The fact that Ross is seriously talking about Mayweather fighting and beating the best super-middles on the planet (and Ross isn't an idiot) just shows what a special special talent we are witnessing with Floyd.

I think Canelo will end up being regarded as a brilliant fighter, in the best tradition of great Mexicans of the past. Jesus, Floyd is 36 now and he gave him a boxing lesson

It's not Mayweathers fault he has cleaned out the divisions he has fought in. I still think that PAC of a few years ago would have been a legendary fight, but I'm not sure it would be now

Enjoy the highest paid, and probably one of the very top athletes in the world while you can. Your grandchildren will be talking about him in the same sentence as Willie Pep, Pernell Sweet Pea, Joe Gans and all the other master boxers of their trade.

[g3org3]

Floyd will never ever fight above 154.
Floyd sr will never allow it.

If bradley beats marquez he deserves the fight for may 3rd...but hes with top rank so yet again theres no way bob will make that happen.

Trout wont sell.
Martinez should have lost to murrey.
Will khan beat alexander?
Is Garcia ready yet?
Pacman - toprank
Bradley - toprank

Why not give judah another payday..will be fun for 6 rounds!

Or cotto 2.

Canelo was a massive star and I think theyve shit the bed here. Mayweather could have fought Garcia while Canelo continued to build his star power. Now they have left themselves in a position where they have nothing better to move on to unless Mayweather fights Martinez at middle.

None of those names are as big as Canelo was and showtime will realise this and push for something equally as big. They arent spending £200 million on Khan or Bradley

Yep. They could have made even more money out of it.
Fed canelo a few more welterweights amd make that fight further down the line.
I feel as though there was a massive empty feeling after the fight..floyd could have retired there and then if he wanted too.
As much as theres loads of uk fans for floyd i cant see him fighting in the uk and leaving vegas.
Khan should fight the pac/rios winner if he beats alexander.

He can't fight in the uk his showtime contract is exclusive to the MGM grand

[beenKOed]

I think he could actually clean up middle weight. No KO's, but out box a win against all of them.

Super middles just wouldnt work, they are still small enough to be agile, yet they could walk right through him. He'd probably fair better (if you did start doing circus fights) against someone much bigger and slower.

Now also seems a good time to mention the whole heavyweight, weight differences. We talk about a fight not being able to happen with Floyd because of 15lbs, yet Haye is giving away 3 stone to Fury this weekend! Is it really that much different? It wouldn't make it impossible.

Floyd though is not going to want to disadvantage himself in any way though.

That ZERO is very important to Floyd so I agree with you. Mayweather will not do anything that will even remotely jeopardize the ZERO. I wouldn't!

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I think Martinez is a less dangerous fight than Canelo. Canelo weighed 172lb against Trout (heavier than Froch weighed against Kessler!) whereas Martinez only enters the ring about 165/167lb and Martinez is near the end.