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Perspective, I may be quite strongly behind Fury in this fight but thats for the reasons mentioned. I think he has Hayes number.

I dont lambast or criticise anyone for believing otherwise unlike you and others on here in a weird cliquey group where no one else is allowed a differing opinion.

If it was a Klitschko or Pulev I may feel different but the fact Haye is a puncher didnt help him on Wlads chin which is just as poor as Furys.

As for me bigging up Johnson and Cunningham, those two also beat Hayes heavyweight wins.
Yes that is a fact but all that means is Haye has hand picked his opponents also , it doesn't mean Fury is a fucking world beater.
The fact of the matter is Haye has beaten guys holding a world title , yes a weaker champ at HW than the brothers grim , but until Fury actually goes in with a world class hitter the jury is out on him.
Also as for Wlad having as weak a chin as Fury , Wlad has got off the floor against world class punchers like Sam Peter and won , or are you saying Wlad would have been floored by Cunnigham or Nevan Pajkic ?

FACT
i dont think that is a fact, johnson isnt busy enough to beat either ruiz or valuev and it would be pretty close between him and barrett, I might even favour barrett, i certainly wouldnt put any money on johnson

cunningham might have the speed to beat valuev, it would be a fairly close fight, again if i had to put my money on someone it would be valuev, and again i think ruiz would beat him

neither haye nor fury have a partivularly amazing record in terms of the oppenents they have faced at HW when you consider that they are both considered world class amongst the current crop

Hayes record at HW is better than Furys tho, especially when you consider the magnitude and location of his fights

one more thing, i think audley harrison would have a good chance against johnson, in fact i would back him