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    The @THE THIRD MAN has made a compelling case. More then that he has made me think back and realize the truth of what he says. Went back and revisited fights. The only thing I would take issue with is the seemingly eternal unjustifiable critique in general of the Hatton fight. His opinion carries a lot of weight with me because he's always been honest and realistic about his countrymen. Zu had cock stiff power. Had he dropped Marquez like Manny did I'm not sure Juan gets up. Zu was a great counter puncher which he is rarely given credit for. The difficulty here is that both fighters peaked at different weights. I dont think the 140 and above version of Marquez beats Zu. I dont think the prime Zu beats the prime 126/130 Marquez either. 135 both in there prime(if that could be arranged) is a coin toss.

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    I would only even give Tszyu a chance because you said '140'
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I would only even give Tszyu a chance because you said '140'
    This.

    At their best weights I see Tszyu taking the first 3 rounds with sharp right hands, before Marquez starts making him miss in rounds 4-6, then making him miss and countering hard in 7, 8 and 9, and then overwhelming him when he puts him on the back foot in 10, 11 and 12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I would only even give Tszyu a chance because you said '140'
    This.

    At their best weights I see Tszyu taking the first 3 rounds with sharp right hands, before Marquez starts making him miss in rounds 4-6, then making him miss and countering hard in 7, 8 and 9, and then overwhelming him when he puts him on the back foot in 10, 11 and 12.
    UD Marquez. At their best weights.
    If this fight was at 140 then that is Kostya best weight, it was never JMM.
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    Default Re: Marquez vs Tszyu

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I would only even give Tszyu a chance because you said '140'
    This.

    At their best weights I see Tszyu taking the first 3 rounds with sharp right hands, before Marquez starts making him miss in rounds 4-6, then making him miss and countering hard in 7, 8 and 9, and then overwhelming him when he puts him on the back foot in 10, 11 and 12.
    UD Marquez. At their best weights.
    If this fight was at 140 then that is Kostya best weight, it was never JMM.
    Yeah I know. I'm saying that at 140lb Kostya has a chance, but that I see it going as I said above if it was a p4p deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I would only even give Tszyu a chance because you said '140'
    This.

    At their best weights I see Tszyu taking the first 3 rounds with sharp right hands, before Marquez starts making him miss in rounds 4-6, then making him miss and countering hard in 7, 8 and 9, and then overwhelming him when he puts him on the back foot in 10, 11 and 12.
    UD Marquez. At their best weights.
    If this fight was at 140 then that is Kostya best weight, it was never JMM.
    Yeah I know. I'm saying that at 140lb Kostya has a chance, but that I see it going as I said above if it was a p4p deal.
    Maybe p4p but JMM is no great welterweight or lightwelter.
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