So the Danes made first trip through the Northwest Passage. Any guess on the cargo?

[Beanz]

That is just fucking dumb, aid workers are not the problem, fat lazy cunts and the actual concept of a 'drive in' anything are the problem. If you really believe there is no alternative to a petrol or gas driven combustion engine then you are deluded by your own myopic desire to defend your position in the face of all reason. You are beyond rationality.

[VictorCharlie]

That is just fucking dumb, aid workers are not the problem, fat lazy cunts and the actual concept of a 'drive in' anything are the problem. If you really believe there is no alternative to a petrol or gas driven combustion engine then you are deluded by your own myopic desire to defend your position in the face of all reason. You are beyond rationality.

Is this directed at me?

[Beanz]

That is just fucking dumb, aid workers are not the problem, fat lazy cunts and the actual concept of a 'drive in' anything are the problem. If you really believe there is no alternative to a petrol or gas driven combustion engine then you are deluded by your own myopic desire to defend your position in the face of all reason. You are beyond rationality.

Is this directed at me?

No, it is directed at Lyles post that has now been thoroughly dismantled by Andre. :-)

[El Kabong]

OK Hydrogen engines.... they would be safe Also water vapor is a "greenhouse gas" and I don't believe extra humidity would be welcomed in the Southeastern United States

[Andre]

Noxious gases.

Im not certain which ones can be managed best to be honest. But water driven vehicles I would think would be somewhat easier than LPG, petrol or diesel.

Anyway there are plenty of alternatives we could invest into aside from going back to walking or rowing medicine to 3rd world countries was my point.

Electro magnetic machinery is another that may come into its own, solar power combinations of both that and magnetic was once used.

We could even end up with a new band called DC/AC, instead of AC/DC

Probably was the better way to go for energy storage.

Turning air to helium is an ancient one that may arise again for our betterment, if we dont fuck everything up first and end up in a dust bowl.

Another trouble is investment, if all super funds and the like are invested into alternates instead of fossil fuels they will no longer support the all the other sub businesses that mining and the likes create and the economical structures that exist will suffer thats the main reason so many politicians on your side of the argument stand up for the way we are heading and they'll pay scientists to find in their favour just as the other side pays scientists to find in theirs.

On another note yesterday Nasa stated they were about to release info that would change world perspective. I woke up looked at their site this morning and its been taken down due to lack of governments funds. WTF? I dont believe that, it isnt a new rocket program its just a fucking web site its not even April the first wtf?

[IamInuit]

Humankind’s legacy will turn out to be a blimp on the map in the history of life although the earth could collapse by us taking its guts to fuel our cars. Any creature as successful as we are is long extinct. That plug in on the wall does not change that fact. The only difference here is our extinction wipes out almost every resource on the planet leaving it a wasteland. No species has exploited this place like we have. Shark fin soup ffs. Shame we die when the earth is dead.

[Andre]

Maybe its meant to be? We as modern humans dont follow our instincts as much we tend to out think ourselves, we think out alternatives to what should come natural and we are happy to pay later on, like later on wont exist.
Its interesting at the least. We sure wont die from boredom.