Wlad Klitschko is a disgrace....and so is that Ref.

[TitoFan]

Hey.... let's proceed to ruin yet another thread for everyone.... ok?
Whaddaya say?

Go ahead.... you were saying how Luis Pabon is Puerto Rican.

[Violent Demise]

Hey.... let's proceed to ruin yet another thread for everyone.... ok?
Whaddaya say?

Go ahead.... you were saying how Luis Pabon is Puerto Rican.

Not here. Go to a Cotto thread. I'll show everybody what a bitch you are over there

[brocktonblockbust]

this was a colorful thread. I have a suggestion. Next fight we'll let a greaseball Eye-talian ref, like me.

[Gandalf]

I thought to myself Saturday night 'Shall I wake up at 5am and watch it?' Thankfully I stayed reasonable and judging by all accounts it was a sensible decision. You know how Wlad fights and you all should know better by now. I heard it compared to Mayweather, but not at all. Mayweather is not exciting, but he has movement and athleticism, backed up with an amazing defence. Wlad doesn't have any of what Mayweather does, it is like Ruiz only far worse and all because he is too scared to fight. Learn your lessons, ignore his fights.

[erics44]

what amazes me is that im reading other threads and people are actually still defending wlad and his tactics

how can any boxing or non boxing fan have watched that on saturday night and say that it was a fair fight or that the fight was within the rules?

holding is against the rules and that was his major weapon in the fight, he did more damage with the clinches than he did with punches

[Mr140]

Ok eric let me ask you this how often do people in boxing get a point deducted for holding i have not seen many of them and i never seen a dq for it. It was a shit fight i wish he got a point taken he might of tried and then just knocked him out but that is just in another world my friend.

[erics44]

Ok eric let me ask you this how often do people in boxing get a point deducted for holding i have not seen many of them and i never seen a dq for it. It was a shit fight i wish he got a point taken he might of tried and then just knocked him out but that is just in another world my friend.

i agree, it doesnt happen enough, but its one thing holding on when you are hurt or every now and again to take a breath but basing your strategy on it is the other world

especially when you are the heavyweight champion

[Tam Seddon]

Hahaha Tyson calling them both big stiff idiots, so funny!

[Mr140]

Been a lot of guys that are big like Wlad over the years but they never amounted to much i say he is pretty skilled also don't think this division is as poor as people think. With out the Brothers i think fights be more competitive and people would think division was better. Also take away Ali speed or Foreman's power and they would not be shit either size is the same way dude its a gift like speed and power is. Well see what happens when he is gone i mean the guy is like 37 now not sure how long he will go for.

[erics44]

Been a lot of guys that are big like Wlad over the years but they never amounted to much i say he is pretty skilled also don't think this division is as poor as people think. With out the Brothers i think fights be more competitive and people would think division was better. Also take away Ali speed or Foreman's power and they would not be shit either size is the same way dude its a gift like speed and power is. Well see what happens when he is gone i mean the guy is like 37 now not sure how long he will go for.

i have no quarms with vitalis fighting style

and i agree, without them the division would look better

But wlad is still champ and still dominates because of his clinching, so if wlad fought within the rules theres a lot more chance of him being in competative fights and we would have a better HW division

i kind of agree with chisora, build some sort of HW tournament away from germany, get these fighters earning the type of money that would draw the wlad away from him comforts and his ref, i think within a couple of fights he would be beaten

i know its a pipe dream and would never happen

[El Kabong]

i have no quarms with vitalis fighting style

and i agree, without them the division would look better

But wlad is still champ and still dominates because of his clinching, so if wlad fought within the rules theres a lot more chance of him being in competative fights and we would have a better HW division

i kind of agree with chisora, build some sort of HW tournament away from germany, get these fighters earning the type of money that would draw the wlad away from him comforts and his ref, i think within a couple of fights he would be beaten

i know its a pipe dream and would never happen

What the frosty fuck is a "quarm"?

[Spicoli]

All fighters hold. Vary few turn into a complete drunken drape ape by choice. It's even worse when you know he could legitimately hurt him badly and land clean KDs as early as the 3rd.

[Fenster]

If his size wasn't a major advantage why did he spend half the fight hanging off Povetkins back? His size means he can get away with constant fouls. A size advantage is not comparable with speed or power. Especially when you consider all divisions.

[Mr140]

Yea but this is not any other division fenster it is hw division size is like speed or power. Last night was bad but most of the time Wald does not hold as much and just jabs his way to victory. I mean hw are different because there is no limit and pretty much not many old timers would have pray in this shit division. Meaning most fighters from the 60's back would have a problem today because of the size. Also eric Wlad completely out boxed Haye with not much clinching and he is pretty much best opponent for Wald. Who are these people that are going to beat him i am just wondering keep saying he would lose i don't think so at all see no proof of it. I mean he clinches at times in his fights but most of them just kinda backs off and jabs away and knocks them out, it seems now he really just does not care and above the rest to much for someone to come in and change it up and really make a fight out of it.

[erics44]

Yea but this is not any other division fenster it is hw division size is like speed or power. Last night was bad but most of the time Wald does not hold as much and just jabs his way to victory. I mean hw are different because there is no limit and pretty much not many old timers would have pray in this shit division. Meaning most fighters from the 60's back would have a problem today because of the size. Also eric Wlad completely out boxed Haye with not much cliching and he is pretty much best test for Wald. Who are these people that are going to beat me i am just wondering keep saying he would lose i don't think so at all see no proof of it. I mean he clinches at times in his fights but most of them just kinda backs off and jabs away and knocks them out, it seems now he really just does not care and above the rest to much for someone to come in and change it up and really make a fight out of it.

it doesn't matter if he jabs more than he holds, holding isn't in the rules

watch wlads last 10 fights, see if you can find 1 fight where he holds less than 5 times in any one round

that means in his last 10 fights he was jabbing a lot perhaps but he also should have been DQd by round 2 in every one of them

mate, you seem quite reasonable but you are obviously happy with what happened on saturday night, but the one fact in all this is wlads whole strategy is based on holding which is against the rules

take the holding out of his game and its very possible, in fact very probably, he wouldn't be the HW champ anymore

his reign is a farce