Terrance Crawford vs. Adrien Broner

[TitoFan]

Was there last night and the entire arena got restless throughout this fight because you had the feeling that Crawford could have gotten Klimov out of there or seriously busted him up if he would have just done a lot more countering rather than avoiding shots and posing, he needs to let his hands go a lot more cause he has the speed and reflexes to do so

So when exactly are Jayson Velez and Felix Verdejo gonna step up there comp level?

I told you this already. Don't make me say things twice.
They'll be taking a page from the new-style Mexican Boxing Career Development Handbook (a la JCC Junior and Canelo).... and waiting until their 40th fight before fighting a live body.

Oops.... too late. They're already ahead of the pace set by both those hype jobs.

Rats....

[IamInuit]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

[TitoFan]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

"Anyone" would include Lucas and Danny. Correct?
You sure you're not rating Broner too highly?

[IamInuit]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

"Anyone" would include Lucas and Danny. Correct?
You sure you're not rating Broner too highly?

I am rating him to highly I know. I think he beats those guys. Btw he looked about 180 when I saw him at the Floyd fight lol.

[TitoFan]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

"Anyone" would include Lucas and Danny. Correct?
You sure you're not rating Broner too highly?

I am rating him to highly I know. I think he beats those guys. Btw he looked about 180 when I saw him at the Floyd fight lol.

I know Lucas lost some of his invincibility luster when he lost to Garcia. But he's still got fast hands and murderous power. You think Broner can hang with Matthysse? I mean... it's boxing... anything can happen. But Broner is too full of himself right now, and hasn't gotten the beatdown that many of these fighters eventually get. Remember the young Zab Judah?

As far as Danny... he impressed the hell out of me with how he handled Lucas. I thought for sure Lucas had too much firepower for him. So if he faced Broner, I'd probably not underestimate him again.

[TitoFan]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

"Anyone" would include Lucas and Danny. Correct?
You sure you're not rating Broner too highly?

I am rating him to highly I know. I think he beats those guys. Btw he looked about 180 when I saw him at the Floyd fight lol.

I know Lucas lost some of his invincibility luster when he lost to Garcia. But he's still got fast hands and murderous power. You think Broner can hang with Matthysse? I mean... it's boxing... anything can happen. But Broner is too full of himself right now, and hasn't gotten the beatdown that many of these fighters eventually get. Remember the young Zab Judah?

As far as Danny... he impressed the hell out of me with how he handled Lucas. I thought for sure Lucas had too much firepower for him. So if he faced Broner, I'd probably not underestimate him again.

Broner is more style than substance, I think. He may still prove me wrong... but he didn't overly impress in his previous outing against an undersized opponent.

[powerpuncher]

i think that broner beats crawford. both are still a bit raw, but i feel like broner is a little more polished. i think it will be hard to outbox broner because he is fast and has good power. his weakness is definitely when somebody pressures him effectively like paulie or de leon. i dont think crawford would use pressure therefore i think he loses.

and i think that garcia and matthysse both beat broner. i think that once he feels their power, he backs off a lot and stops throwing.

[IamInuit]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

"Anyone" would include Lucas and Danny. Correct?
You sure you're not rating Broner too highly?

I am rating him to highly I know. I think he beats those guys. Btw he looked about 180 when I saw him at the Floyd fight lol.

I know Lucas lost some of his invincibility luster when he lost to Garcia. But he's still got fast hands and murderous power. You think Broner can hang with Matthysse? I mean... it's boxing... anything can happen. But Broner is too full of himself right now, and hasn't gotten the beatdown that many of these fighters eventually get. Remember the young Zab Judah?

As far as Danny... he impressed the hell out of me with how he handled Lucas. I thought for sure Lucas had too much firepower for him. So if he faced Broner, I'd probably not underestimate him again.

Broner is more style than substance, I think. He may still prove me wrong... but he didn't overly impress in his previous outing against an undersized opponent.

I'm having trouble keeping up with you. I dont think Lucas fights Garcia the same way the second time. I think he boxes more then looking for the big shot. Btw I think Lucas would be tougher for Broner then Garcia.

Broner is more style than substance

I think to this point that is true. He's got an odd style behind that shoulder and an extra wide flat footed stance. The light punching speedy angle using movers seem to have the blueprint. Trouble is nobody other then them fight that way.

[Ant Live]

I would love to see that fight. But would like to see them both mature a little more. I believe they both can be superstars in the sport.
Crawford and clean out the 135 division right now if allowed to. Would like to see him in there with the likes of Gamboa and Linares and Abril.
And although Broner got a title at 147, I believe 140 should be where he lay his hat for a while.
I would like to see him in there with Garcia, Peterson, Mattysee, Judah.
At 147 I think a number of guys can beat him . . .
Ghost
Ortiz
Bradley
Thurman
Alexander
and might lose to Shane(I'm reaching?)

[TitoFan]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

"Anyone" would include Lucas and Danny. Correct?
You sure you're not rating Broner too highly?

I think Broner gets beat handily by both these guys.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Ignoring the jackass of the thread (who apparently can't keep to the topic of the actual thread or anything related to it), IMO Broner against Garcia or Matthysse is 50/50, he's shown that he's not that great of a counter puncher, so would be good to see how he deals with a real pressure fighter in the higher weights, and we'll see just this against Maidana

[Violent Demise]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

It's what they do. You can clearly see who's at fault. One of them claims he was there in person. So he must of seen the 2 Puerto Rican prospects first hand. A simple valid question asking when they would step up there competition was not out of line. But he comes the fag trying to high-jack the thread by changing the subject and posting his usual nonsense.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Somebody start a thread about peanut butter because I want to see if it morphs to.
This shit is becoming unbearable.

As to the fight in question I'd have to go with Broner. I think he beats anyone at 140.

It's what they do. You can clearly see who's at fault. One of them claims he was there in person. So he must of seen the 2 Puerto Rican prospects first hand. A simple valid question asking when they would step up there competition was not out of line. But he comes the fag trying to high-jack the thread by changing the subject and posting his usual nonsense.

Verdejo has been a pro for 1 yr and ALREADY has 8 pro bouts in, he looked very impressive last night showing speed, power, and patience

Velez showed that he can deal with rough house tactics seeing how Dat just kept rushing in with his head and hugging on the inside, he had him hurt a couple times, but the only "KD" was when Velez was off balance his gloves touched the canvas, apart from that he dominated the fight

Moises Carasquillo Jr looked equally as good, but might want to move down in weight

that being said, it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, so you're right, it's clear who's at fault, your ass, as usual...

[Violent Demise]

Was there last night and the entire arena got restless throughout this fight because you had the feeling that Crawford could have gotten Klimov out of there or seriously busted him up if he would have just done a lot more countering rather than avoiding shots and posing, he needs to let his hands go a lot more cause he has the speed and reflexes to do so

So when exactly are Jayson Velez and Felix Verdejo gonna step up there comp level?

I told you this already. Don't make me say things twice.
They'll be taking a page from the new-style Mexican Boxing Career Development Handbook (a la JCC Junior and Canelo).... and waiting until their 40th fight before fighting a live body.

Oops.... too late. They're already ahead of the pace set by both those hype jobs.

Rats....

And you wonder why they laugh at you. Alvarez is 23 years old. Has already beaten Trout and took a fight against the best fighter in the planet. Jayson (I can't fucking spell) Velez is 25. He just barely beat Dat Nguyen for his career best win. Let me guess. Nguyen is just as good a win as a Trout win, right? Verdejo is 20 years old and he ain't even got 10 fights. But some how there ahead of the pace?

[outspoken]

Was there last night and the entire arena got restless throughout this fight because you had the feeling that Crawford could have gotten Klimov out of there or seriously busted him up if he would have just done a lot more countering rather than avoiding shots and posing, he needs to let his hands go a lot more cause he has the speed and reflexes to do so

So when exactly are Jayson Velez and Felix Verdejo gonna step up there comp level?

I told you this already. Don't make me say things twice.
They'll be taking a page from the new-style Mexican Boxing Career Development Handbook (a la JCC Junior and Canelo).... and waiting until their 40th fight before fighting a live body.

Oops.... too late. They're already ahead of the pace set by both those hype jobs.

Rats....

And you wonder why they laugh at you. Alvarez is 23 years old. Has already beaten Trout and took a fight against the best fighter in the planet. Jayson (I can't fucking spell) Velez is 25. He just barely beat Dat Nguyen for his career best win. Let me guess. Nguyen is just as good a win as a Trout win, right? Verdejo is 20 years old and he ain't even got 10 fights. But some how there ahead of the pace?

True Canelo is 23 and fought the best p4p 1 fighter. And I guess Canelo took a page from Wilfredo Benitez if you want to be technical about it. He was like 24-0 fighting guys that were 2-0 and 26-11-4 right up until he fought Cervantes for the title.

Oh but he was a young fighter right? lol