KLITSCHKO v POVETKIN - HBO/BOXNATION - Saturday Night CHAT THREAD

[erics44]

All the complainers just need to say what they mean which is ...

"I'm upset because Wlad won"

and maybe we can all chip in and get a good deal on some tissues so you can wipe away your tears


Hate all you want but that was Successful title defense #15 in a row

im upset because i really dont know if the current Heavyweight champion of the world is a worthy Heavyweight Champion of the World because he doesnt fight within the rules

id love wlad to have a fight with provetkin, stand up straight, box him, throw loads of jabs and a few combos and blast provetkin out of there in a few exciting rounds

it would be mint, an entertaining night of boxing

instead he just leant on him for 12 founds, and his main weapon was the leaning, did more damage than the punching

id like someone to count the number of punches landed against the number of leans, i bet there isnt that much difference

[p4pking]

Lyle you make a real ass of yourself here, it's no different than Ross in Tyson Fury threads. Nobody else cares nearly as much about whether Wlad wins, as you do. Do you actually fail to realize that? You are the fan, and the one obsessed about his results. Everyone expected Wlad to win, who is bitter about it? I don't like any fighter enough to rather see them win an abortion than lose a boxing match, or the other way round. That goes for the majority of people here I imagine, the ones you accuse of being "haters" all of a sudden. Anyone who didn't have a dog named Wladimir on saturday HATED what they watched, it's really that simple.

[El Kabong]

Lyle you make a real ass of yourself here, it's no different than Ross in Tyson Fury threads. Nobody else cares nearly as much about whether Wlad wins, as you do. Do you actually fail to realize that? You are the fan, and the one obsessed about his results. Everyone expected Wlad to win, who is bitter about it? I don't like any fighter enough to rather see them win an abortion than lose a boxing match, or the other way round. That goes for the majority of people here I imagine, the ones you accuse of being "haters" all of a sudden. Anyone who didn't have a dog named Wladimir on saturday HATED what they watched, it's really that simple.

I never said the fight was "edge of your seat exciting" but that's not the point of boxing...it's NICE when a fight is exciting but it isn't a requirement. Being able to win an ugly fight is a necessity for a good champion, just ask Bernard Hopkins. I called people out on their hypocrisy for loving up on Hatton, Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson et al who constantly and consistently got away with worse fouls but it's ok because for some reason when those guys fouled it was acceptable or it wasn't called by the referee. Roberto Duran won a title by punching Ken Buchannan square in the dick...where's the constant outrage for that?

I suppose this insolent response will earn me another neg rep from you with another whiny reason behind it...those are soo terribly traumatic

[p4pking]

Lyle you make a real ass of yourself here, it's no different than Ross in Tyson Fury threads. Nobody else cares nearly as much about whether Wlad wins, as you do. Do you actually fail to realize that? You are the fan, and the one obsessed about his results. Everyone expected Wlad to win, who is bitter about it? I don't like any fighter enough to rather see them win an abortion than lose a boxing match, or the other way round. That goes for the majority of people here I imagine, the ones you accuse of being "haters" all of a sudden. Anyone who didn't have a dog named Wladimir on saturday HATED what they watched, it's really that simple.

I never said the fight was "edge of your seat exciting" but that's not the point of boxing...it's NICE when a fight is exciting but it isn't a requirement. Being able to win an ugly fight is a necessity for a good champion, just ask Bernard Hopkins. I called people out on their hypocrisy for loving up on Hatton, Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson et al who constantly and consistently got away with worse fouls but it's ok because for some reason when those guys fouled it was acceptable or it wasn't called by the referee. Roberto Duran won a title by punching Ken Buchannan square in the dick...where's the constant outrage for that?

I suppose this insolent response will earn me another neg rep from you with another whiny reason behind it...those are soo terribly traumatic

Hopkins, Hatton or Duran never fouled as blatantly or frequently as Wlad did the other night, I don't think that's realistically an argument anyone else would make. Dirty fights happen, but fouling as a primary tactic to wear out your opponent is quite different and in that case was unwatchable. Wlad pushed Povetkins head down over a 100 times and was never warned for it, but your argument is that if the ref didn't call a foul, it wasn't one. I suppose if next week we see a guy rip his opponents to shreds throwing big elbows every round and the ref doesn't do his job, you'd make the same case? And not that it matters but I only neg rep people for making childish personal attacks unprovoked, which you do on the topic of Wladimir quite often.

[El Kabong]

Hopkins, Hatton or Duran never fouled as blatantly or frequently as Wlad did the other night, I don't think that's realistically an argument anyone else would make. Dirty fights happen, but fouling as a primary tactic to wear out your opponent is quite different and in that case was unwatchable. Wlad pushed Povetkins head down over a 100 times and was never warned for it, but your argument is that if the ref didn't call a foul, it wasn't one. I suppose if next week we see a guy rip his opponents to shreds throwing big elbows every round and the ref doesn't do his job, you'd make the same case? And not that it matters but I only neg rep people for making childish personal attacks unprovoked, which you do on the topic of Wladimir quite often.

Duran won a title by punching Ken Buchannan in the dick FACT



3:01 ....right in the dick.....how much more blatant do you want?

Tyson-Savarese, Tyson-Botha

Hopkin-Allen in their matches

You can say the fight was boring but don't fucking tell me that nobody else fouled like that.

[p4pking]

Hadn't seen that in ages or from that angle, really did look like a nut shot so that's just a poor call. But it's still an individual foul, if a much worse one than Wlads. It was the rate at which Wlad held, leaned on or pushed Povetkin which made it so shit, the ref never took any control of what became an excuse for a fight. Guys do a lot worse things now and then, but I've never seen a boxer so repeatedly foul in a championship fight. Of course as you love to point out nothing was being called, but I still can't help blame Wlad for stinking it out when he didn't have to. He could have easily KO'ed Povetkin imo, if he just bothered to actually put anything together or jab more instead of initiating that crap.