Wlad Klitschko is a disgrace....and so is that Ref.

[Rantcatrat]

I'm a fan of the Klitschko's, but that was a complete shit show, even moreso than normal.

Unfortunately for Wlad, he seems to stink out the joint in his biggest fights. There was huge press and hype on the Sultan Ibragimov showdown at the Garden and they bored everyone to tears. Same with the big David Haye megafight and now this. He looked stiffed and even bored in a lot of parts, and looked amateurish as he was looking for the big one-punch left hook KO. The right hand seemed to be off point as well.

But to be fair to Wlad, and I said this in another thread, people are going to say he's shit because of the grabbing, but they forget that Ali "jab and grabbed" his way to more than a few victories, they weren't all Thrillas in Manillas or Rumbles in the Jungles.

They need to get a ref in there who will take charge and remove the excessive holding from these fights.

This is a solid post.

Here's the bottom line. Klitschko is not an exciting heavyweight--even Lyle won't make that claim. There is just no two ways about it.

However, Wlad is effective at what he does. That's just it. He's athletic, smart and well-prepared for every fight.

An interesting topic for another thread is how weak is this heavyweight division compared with those of yesteryear? I know it doesn't compare to the best periods for the division, but I doubt without researching that it is the worst too.

[Spicoli]

I honestly don't mind a guy clinching as long as he's trying to break your ribs or face with the free hand.

[El Kabong]

I'm a fan of the Klitschko's, but that was a complete shit show, even moreso than normal.

Unfortunately for Wlad, he seems to stink out the joint in his biggest fights. There was huge press and hype on the Sultan Ibragimov showdown at the Garden and they bored everyone to tears. Same with the big David Haye megafight and now this. He looked stiffed and even bored in a lot of parts, and looked amateurish as he was looking for the big one-punch left hook KO. The right hand seemed to be off point as well.

But to be fair to Wlad, and I said this in another thread, people are going to say he's shit because of the grabbing, but they forget that Ali "jab and grabbed" his way to more than a few victories, they weren't all Thrillas in Manillas or Rumbles in the Jungles.

They need to get a ref in there who will take charge and remove the excessive holding from these fights.

This is a solid post.

Here's the bottom line. Klitschko is not an exciting heavyweight--even Lyle won't make that claim. There is just no two ways about it.

However, Wlad is effective at what he does. That's just it. He's athletic, smart and well-prepared for every fight.

An interesting topic for another thread is how weak is this heavyweight division compared with those of yesteryear? I know it doesn't compare to the best periods for the division, but I doubt without researching that it is the worst too.

Wladimir fights to WIN, if he can end a fight impressively he'll do it, but he's not going to put all his eggs in the "I'm gonna knock you out" basket. What would be interesting is if there was a fight where Wlad NEEDED a KO late to be assured of victory, but that's unlikely to happen because he can win rounds making it look ugly.


And to stir up the pot a little Bernard Hopkins is still screwing up fighters at 48....Wladimir is 37...we COULD have 11 more years of this (hypothetically speaking of course)