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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    Reach advantage is overplayed. Cotto's style for the most part is negating it. Marciano had about the same reach as Hatton. Saddler had a longer reach. Paul Williams had the wing span of a teradactyl.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    I cant say until I see martinez in a tuneup. He's had two big surgeries on his knee and he's a fighter who relied heavily on his mobility so theres just no way to know his condition right now.

    Im pretty sure he wont be the same fighter and if im right, i might pick cotto.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    Just a bridge too far for Cotto. I like the dude and glad he caved in Rodriquez as pretty much everyone expected, but thats going from Nerf ball to the majors with Martinez..yes even a long in the tooth Martinez. That fight needs serious perspective. Cottos jab would be nulified of left extended from jump and he would telegraph as he sets up and tries to rip Martinez who would be just fast and mobile enough to leave him in a lurge and hit him with blind spot punches the likes of which Miguel has not felt, and can not afford. I respect both of these guys tons but honestly see Martinez putting a bad beating on Cotto. Cotto is commited physically..heavy on the front... when he initiates and don't think he'll be fresh and quick enough to adjust when Sergios shoots counters and breaks it up.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    I might think a bridge perhaps to far for Martinez. He still says he can make 155 for Floyd. Leave the tin on the night stand.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    No, Cotto is too small for MW, though it might be catching Martinez at the right time. Cotto needs to fight Trout, KO Alvarez and maybe also fight Mayweather again.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    More 2 small stuff.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I might think a bridge perhaps to far for Martinez. He still says he can make 155 for Floyd. Leave the tin on the night stand.
    Just dont think he'll venture those sacrafices for a Cotto who is being frankensteined back together now. He may be old, but he still has the options.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    i think in recent years we've seen fighters that have shown that they don't have to reach the maximum agreed upon weight for a fight to be able to defeat the opponent in that fight. cotto may be able to come in at 154 and do very well against martinez who may come in at 165 fight night. martinez often weighs several pounds below the middleweight limit for the weigh in anyway... he doesn't really do himself any favours if he bulks up for a fight against cotto.

    why not? think back to when there were fewer weight classes. fighters were often different weights for fights.
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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    I don't think it's the weight. Cotto has beaten pretty much a blue print of the same opponent at 154. Mayorga being what he was, awkward strong, Rodriquez and a shop worn Margarito are somewhat similar. Foreman was the deepest in mobility and boxing, Martinez may have a knee brace also but he's oceans above in firepower and talent. Not saying its a terrible match at all, just think Martinez gets really sold short as of late.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I don't think it's the weight. Cotto has beaten pretty much a blue print of the same opponent at 154. Mayorga being what he was, awkward strong, Rodriquez and a shop worn Margarito are somewhat similar. Foreman was the deepest in mobility and boxing, Martinez may have a knee brace also but he's oceans above in firepower and talent. Not saying its a terrible match at all, just think Martinez gets really sold short as of late.
    True enough and guilty as charged. I think I'm tossing him into the garden perhaps a little prematurely but he has declined.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    We all go golden geezer eventually if only we could be payed near as much!

    Not sure geezer across the pond means what it does here

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    You'd expect Martinez to win but his last fight wasnt great and at 154 Cotto has a real chance

    At 160 Sergio stops him

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Martinez - June 2014

    I would pay to see that fight. But here's how style makes fights in my opinion.
    Martinez beats Cotto
    Canelo beats Martinez
    Cotto beats Canelo

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