Take action now- tell Russia : Release the Greenpeace activists

[SugarBoxing]

What is the difference between this situation and peaceful people being locked up for false charges of piracy?

I do not know about the spiritual background of these "peacefull" people, so I cannot argue here
However, if they believe in the almighty God, they would not bother with this "attempts" to make the corrupted earth better by default or definition of "almighty"

Besides, it is just very naive to believe in "openheartedness" of western, ungodly, money driven people and accept their motives as 100% true

[Andre]

That is a ridiculous statement under the circumstances and then you go on to judge all in the west under one heading, that is not just.

Ill ask you again cause i dont think you got it:

If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father and leave him there or do you lean down and hold out your hand and say brother let me help you out of there?

[SugarBoxing]

If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father

Bible promises that "all things work together for good in the life of a believer", though "the things" separetely might not be good. If joseph brothers did not put him into the hole ... he might not end up as the second man in Egypt. God used all shit in his life to promote him

lasr but not leasr, God is good and all the time, there is none good but God

[brocktonblockbust]

@NVSemin IF GOD IS GOOD YOU WISHFUL THINKER YOU---------

How good is it to kill 200 thousand people in an earthquake?
how good is it to annihilate 240 thousand people in a cyclone?
how good is it to sit back and watch the Nazis exterminate 6 million Jews?

Yeah I see how Jesus has really saved this world.

[SugarBoxing]

how good is it to sit back and watch the Nazis exterminate 6 million Jews?

they did not call upon Jesus help since most of the do not accept him
When things got tougher in the end times, they will turn to Jesus and he will save them

[Andre]

At least get his name right, it was Yeshua.
Oh and while we are at it, Gods Sabbath was and is always on a Saturday.
Rome via the modern Pauline style of Christianity after 300ad changed that for you into Sunday.

[Andre]

If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father

Bible promises that "all things work together for good in the life of a believer", though "the things" separetely might not be good. If joseph brothers did not put him into the hole ... he might not end up as the second man in Egypt. God used all shit in his life to promote him

lasr but not leasr, God is good and all the time, there is none good but God

I asked as a Christian,would you help someone out of a hole or would you leave them there thinking it is the will of God.

[SugarBoxing]

If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father

Bible promises that "all things work together for good in the life of a believer", though "the things" separetely might not be good. If joseph brothers did not put him into the hole ... he might not end up as the second man in Egypt. God used all shit in his life to promote him

lasr but not leasr, God is good and all the time, there is none good but God

I asked as a Christian,would you help someone out of a hole or would you leave them there thinking it is the will of God.

About Sabbath - since we are no longer under "The Law", it does not matter when it is actually anymore. Nobody needs to keep it
Exact name of Jesus also does not matter, since christianity is not a "religion", but relationship with God,
formality is dagerous

Second, question. I do not have to do it to please God. But if I really can intervene and help, I might, though the chance is little. Happy now? I believe a prayer is the best weapon

Last but not least, we christian have the holy spirit that leads us. There are no ''rules", sometimes it is better to leave the man in the hole, sometimes - better save him. Christians live life, not follow rules and guidances

Your older post:

Yeshua, would not agree with that analogy for Earthly matters. He said you get what you earn and you die by what you live by, which means change or go by the same way you choose. Same with judgment of others;you get judged by the same measurement (rod)you judge others by.

you take so many stuff out of context. Ask yourself first who he was talking to? He told all these to law-keeping Jews to show that if they want to earn righteousness by the law -keeping - there are no compromises and it gets really hard: "you get what you earn and you die by what you live by, which means change or go by the same way you choose. Same with judgment of others;you get judged by the same measurement (rod)you judge others by".

He also said not all who call on my name will be saved;that also points to real action and compassion for others being the true way, for the true believers.

Bullshit. Salvation is only through faith. However, once you get on the right track with God, the fruits of it (not works of it) will be compassion and other nice things

[Andre]

The Roman take over of Christianity was some 300 years after Yeshua walked the Earth. Their rules are the ones modern Christianity still goes by, not the original way of Yeshua who stated love now rules over law.

They took the new testaments original letters and scripts aside and omitted and added to its content during the council of Nicosia, thats a fact.

At that closing they also made a new law that unless you worshiped in the way they worshiped on the days they worshiped and by their new scripts, then you would be dead to them and to God and they would see to it and to all your business and property including all your family members. That is fear that is not Love.Fear is the reverse to love.

That is exactly what these Sunday worshipers inflicted onto millions, then and for many centuries after they burned and killed God loving Christians at the stake,tortured people who dared to worship God in any other way but their (Fear God) the false anti Christ way.

That is the murdering, cash hungry lust for control over others, foundation 90% of modern churches are built upon you go by the exact same scriptures they changed for you. Its is factual history what they have done to the religion of love.

God is Love, that is exactly what Yeshua pointed to.

You are meant to by that same love, want to help a person out of a hole its up to them if they reach for your hand.

Green peace activists are in a hole made by another false law.

[walrus]

The Roman take over of Christianity was some 300 years after Yeshua walked the Earth. Their rules are the ones modern Christianity still goes by, not the original way of Yeshua who stated love now rules over law.

They took the new testaments original letters and scripts aside and omitted and added to its content during the council of Nicosia, thats a fact.

At that closing they also made a new law that unless you worshiped in the way they worshiped on the days they worshiped and by their new scripts, then you would be dead to them and to God and they would see to it and to all your business and property including all your family members. That is fear that is not Love.Fear is the reverse to love.

That is exactly what these Sunday worshipers inflicted onto millions, then and for many centuries after they burned and killed God loving Christians at the stake,tortured people who dared to worship God in any other way but their (Fear God) the false anti Christ way.

That is the murdering, cash hungry lust for control over others, foundation 90% of modern churches are built upon you go by the exact same scriptures they changed for you. Its is factual history what they have done to the religion of love.

God is Love, that is exactly what Yeshua pointed to.

You are meant to by that same love, want to help a person out of a hole its up to them if they reach for your hand.

Green peace activists are in a hole made by another false law.

The council of Nicea omitted books that were dated hundreds of years after Christ. They tried to find the books written close to the time of Christ. All the books that were not accepted are still available for reading today.
I don't like to get too far into the religious debates here but you brought up the Catholic Church so I will pipe in for a minute, hopefully with respect.
When you talk about reaching out to help, the Catholic church, with all of her problems and scandals, has been a tremendous provider of humanitarian works for 2000 years. I could reference several things but I won't as I know the anti religious would rather not hear it. No, I am not in denial of the tragedy, those are not failings of God, those are failings of man. The Church has had people who have had tremendous positive influence on the world for thousands of years. I like your posts Andre so I am not looking to argue, I just wanted to get that out.

[Andre]

He also said not all who call on my name will be saved;that also points to real action and compassion for others being the true way, for the true believers.

Bullshit. Salvation is only through faith. However, once you get on the right track with God, the fruits of it (not works of it) will be compassion and other nice things

Matthew 7:21 – “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven …”

[Andre]

Dont you think that is because those ones who only call on the name, dont walk the walk, they are all talk no action?

[SugarBoxing]

He also said not all who call on my name will be saved;that also points to real action and compassion for others being the true way, for the true believers.

Bullshit. Salvation is only through faith. However, once you get on the right track with God, the fruits of it (not works of it) will be compassion and other nice things

Matthew 7:21 – “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven …”

I am glad that you dig for understanding, but you take stuff out of context again
The first principle is that God favors and respects faith, not person in the first place
If stone could produce faith - he would put them above us.

That quote was referring to the end times if I am not mistaken