Trinidad, DLH, and Calzaghe likely to be inducted into HOF in 2014

[IamInuit]

How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

I hate James Toney and no I dont think he should be in.

Roy Jones was 39 years and 10 months old when the Italian Dragon fought him.
Bernard Hopkins was 43 years and 6 months old "................................"
Peter Manfredo is a joke.
UD over Sakio Bika (avg. judge's scorecard 116-111)
UD over Kessler (avg. judge's scorecard116-112)
Jeff Lacy was an overhyped 1-dimensional fighter who built up his record fighting New Jersey club fighters like Anwar Oshana, Omar Sheika, etc. and anybody decent whipped his ass like Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, etc.

How can you compare that with what Oscar did? Calzaghe never fought anybody like Vargas, Gatti, Mosely, Mayweather, Quartey, Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Mayorga. IN fact most of them would have blown him out.

But I like the way he threw slaps in bunches. He landed about 40 power punches in Rd. 1 against Byron Mitchell (yeah, true, 10 were rabbit punches and/or holding and hitting) and Mitchell was like "WTF? Is there a mosquito in here?"

Telling the same fibs over and over and over again does not equal truth. What it does equal is sincere delusion. Before he sparked out his hands he had one of the best ko %'s in boxing, dominated a weight class for a decade or more, never ducked anyone and would have been hell on earth for any fighter over the course of boxing history in the weight area including Jones.

Other then that, yeah he was pretty pedestrian.

Sven Otkke lmfao. You cant make up this shit.

[brocktonblockbust]

How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

I hate James Toney and no I dont think he should be in.

Roy Jones was 39 years and 10 months old when the Italian Dragon fought him.
Bernard Hopkins was 43 years and 6 months old "................................"
Peter Manfredo is a joke.
UD over Sakio Bika (avg. judge's scorecard 116-111)
UD over Kessler (avg. judge's scorecard116-112)
Jeff Lacy was an overhyped 1-dimensional fighter who built up his record fighting New Jersey club fighters like Anwar Oshana, Omar Sheika, etc. and anybody decent whipped his ass like Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, etc.

How can you compare that with what Oscar did? Calzaghe never fought anybody like Vargas, Gatti, Mosely, Mayweather, Quartey, Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Mayorga. IN fact most of them would have blown him out.

But I like the way he threw slaps in bunches. He landed about 40 power punches in Rd. 1 against Byron Mitchell (yeah, true, 10 were rabbit punches and/or holding and hitting) and Mitchell was like "WTF? Is there a mosquito in here?"

Telling the same fibs over and over and over again does not equal truth. What it does equal is sincere delusion. Before he sparked out his hands he had one of the best ko %'s in boxing, dominated a weight class for a decade or more, never ducked anyone and would have been hell on earth for any fighter over the course of boxing history in the weight area including Jones.

Other then that, yeah he was pretty pedestrian.

Sven Otkke lmfao. You cant make up this shit.

KOs against who?? Anybody a Grade-A fighter? Name the great KOs. I mean seriously, Branko Sobat? Will McIntyre? Kabery Salem? Oh and my favourite of the lot, Tocker Pudwill! It makes me laugh when criticism of Calzaghe is lazily put down to "American jealousy". Could you imagine if the likes of Floyd Mayweather or Oscar De La Hoya had continuously defended their titles against opponents of the caliber of Pudwill and McIntyre? They would have been savaged by the US boxing media. quality challengers like Robin Reid (who he narrowly beat), and Byron Mitchell (who dropped him and should have easily finished him) were the exception rather than the rule. My point is: Where was the craving for the big fights and willingness to travel Stateside that Ricky Hatton had? This is what Calzaghe should have been doing. Going over to America and demanding the big fights, as well as dumping the weak WBO title. But, like I said earlier, Joe seemed happy just to stay at home and pick up easy paychecks.

[Beanflicker]

lol Tocker Pudwill. He even sounds like a bum.

[Beanflicker]

To me, I give Calzaghe big credit for three fights: Lacy, Kessler and Bhop.

The rest... ehhh... whatever. Bika is a good fighter. Eubank was well passed it. Whatever.

Steve Collins ducked him though.

[brocktonblockbust]

He would have been royally smoked like a Scottish Chubby (or a Welsh Rabbit) by Chad Dawson, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jermaine Taylor, Antonio Tarver, Edison Miranda, and a younger Hopkins would have destroyed him. Destroyed him. RJJ wold have killed him even at age 35. But Jones was 2 months from 40 years old when they fought.

[Beanflicker]

Yeah I don't know why anyone would care about someone beating Roy Jones after the Glen Johnson fight and Tarver 3. A lot of people took it as some kind of confirmation that prime Calzaghe > prime Jones, which is just rediculous. Calzaghe would have struggled to win a round vs prime Jones.

[Dreaderick Tatum]

He would have been royally smoked like a Scottish Chubby (or a Welsh Rabbit) by Chad Dawson, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jermaine Taylor, Antonio Tarver, Edison Miranda, and a younger Hopkins would have destroyed him. Destroyed him. RJJ wold have killed him even at age 35. But Jones was 2 months from 40 years old when they fought.

You sir, don't have a clue. On what planet does Edison Miranda 'royally smoke' Calzaghe? There's having an opinion and then there's embarrassing yourself. Actually it's quite funny. Please continue.

[Beanz]

He would have been royally smoked like a Scottish Chubby (or a Welsh Rabbit) by Chad Dawson, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jermaine Taylor, Antonio Tarver, Edison Miranda, and a younger Hopkins would have destroyed him. Destroyed him. RJJ wold have killed him even at age 35. But Jones was 2 months from 40 years old when they fought.

What a pile of unimaginative krap. It's almost as bad as Bachman Turner Overdrive's "You ain't seen nothing yet" for mediocrity and quite nauseous in it's use of regurgitated verbatim second hand opinion. Calzaghe would have painted the canvas with all of the guys you mention. Dawson, Tarver , Miranda ? Come on now that is just childish.

[Dia bando]

He would have been royally smoked like a Scottish Chubby (or a Welsh Rabbit) by Chad Dawson, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jermaine Taylor, Antonio Tarver, Edison Miranda, and a younger Hopkins would have destroyed him. Destroyed him. RJJ wold have killed him even at age 35. But Jones was 2 months from 40 years old when they fought.

What a pile of unimaginative krap. It's almost as bad as Bachman Turner Overdrive's "You ain't seen nothing yet" for mediocrity and quite nauseous in it's use of regurgitated verbatim second hand opinion. Calzaghe would have painted the canvas with all of the guys you mention. Dawson, Tarver , Miranda ? Come on now that is just childish.

Beanz he's at it again, JC baiting is he fucking with us Yep he's doing a Tom Jones it's not unusual.

[Fenster]

Behave for fucks sake.

Calzaghe was constantly slated by British boxing media. You're naming fighters that were late replacements brought in to save the date (this happens virtually every week in boxing).

Calzaghe never headlined a show in front of more than 3000 people until the Lacy fight. He was a complete and utter nobody in Britain, he only found fame in the latter part of his career. Believe it or not, he didn't spend the majority of his career as some British superstar packing out stadiums and raking in millions fighting "bums"

[Fenster]

Calzaghe doesn't get enough credit for the Roy win. Roy was coming off a decent win streak that included Trinidad.

Roy detonates a brutal forearm smash on Calzaghe's chin. HBO are wanking about how great Roy is, everyone is laughing at Calzaghe. Two rounds later Cazlaghe is clowning Roy and HBO are giggling and waxing lyrical about how great Calzaghe is. For two old guys past their best it was entertaining.

[IamInuit]

KOs against who?? Anybody a Grade-A fighter? Name the great KOs. I mean seriously, Branko Sobat? Will McIntyre? Kabery Salem? Oh and my favourite of the lot, Tocker Pudwill! It makes me laugh when criticism of Calzaghe is lazily put down to "American jealousy". Could you imagine if the likes of Floyd Mayweather or Oscar De La Hoya had continuously defended their titles against opponents of the caliber of Pudwill and McIntyre? They would have been savaged by the US boxing media. quality challengers like Robin Reid (who he narrowly beat), and Byron Mitchell (who dropped him and should have easily finished him) were the exception rather than the rule. My point is: Where was the craving for the big fights and willingness to travel Stateside that Ricky Hatton had? This is what Calzaghe should have been doing. Going over to America and demanding the big fights, as well as dumping the weak WBO title. But, like I said earlier, Joe seemed happy just to stay at home and pick up easy paychecks.

And what about Marciano's ko ratio to quality ko's? How about Tyson? And again with the inference that he somehow ducked someone by staying at home. Who?

Great fighters get dropped all the time, have in the past and will continue to be. So what?

Give me an example of a fight that he should have made but didn't. Based on your testimony here today there ought to be several. I'm only asking for 1. There are only a handful of guys that might beat Joe at 168 in the history of the sport and none of them are fighting today save one that is a write off in Roy Jones. Calzaghe is a shoe in to the Hall.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Oscar certainly belongs in the Hall..

Tito too...

As for Calzaghe, not really feeling it but whatever. He's barely gets in I guess kinda like Cotto..

[ElTerribleMorales]

Oscar certainly belongs in the Hall..

Tito too...

As for Calzaghe, not really feeling it but whatever. He's barely gets in I guess kinda like Cotto..

and he has exactly what to do with this thread?! well on that same note anywho, if Cotto "barely" gets in, Margarito definitely never gets in haha

[FinitoElDinamita]

Oscar certainly belongs in the Hall..

Tito too...

As for Calzaghe, not really feeling it but whatever. He's barely gets in I guess kinda like Cotto..

and he has exactly what to do with this thread?! well on that same note anywho, if Cotto "barely" gets in, Margarito definitely never gets in haha

Cotto and Margarito are borderline... just barrrrely by a pin..