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    Cool Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    This is not a wind-up. Fact. I just stumbled across this by accident, it's an interesting read.

    For this fantasy fight, we're matching the best featherweight versions of both fighters. For Hamed, that means we're talking about his absolute prime, circa roughly 1997. For Marquez, it's debatable what year and what weight represent his true prime, but at 126, his best run came from 2002 to 2005, after he had taken a couple of controversial losses and accrued valuable experience.

    Below our panel of ESPN.com experts picks a winner in this classic matchup.


    Experts picks

    Dan Rafael: Hamed by KO

    Kieran Mulvaney: Hamed by decision

    Nigel Collins: Hamed by decision

    Eric Raskin: Marquez by decision

    Brian Campbell: Hamed by decision

    Bernardo Pilatti: Marquez by KO (this guy obviously don't know shit about boxing. Fact.)

    Salvador Rodriguez: Hamed by decision

    Classic Matchup: Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Prince Naseem Hamed - ESPN

    Read the link for their reasons.

    As I always said, even if Naz had knocked Marquez unconcious he still would have been an all-time great.
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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    I was only 15 then but 1997 seemed like such a good time for boxing. The memories
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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    Good time for music too.
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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    Fenster annual Hamed thread. 1997 is gone you cannot turn back time unless you have a flux capacitor.
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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    These guys know what there talking about

    Dan Rafael: During the late 1990s, Marquez was Hamed's mandatory and wanted the fight badly. There is no doubt that Hamed ducked him because Marquez was a dangerous opponent

    Eric Raskin: When one fighter blatantly ducks another, there's usually a reason, but in this case, the threat Marquez posed to Hamed was only half of it. The other half was that financially. If you can make bigger paydays elsewhere, why lose your perfect record against a guy who's going to beat you?

    Bernardo Pilatti: Because of his unorthodox style, Hamed was actually tailor-made for Marquez. That's why the Prince never fulfilled his mandatory. Unlike his countryman, Marquez would indeed knock out Hamed.

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    JMM beats him imo

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    That's no fight. Hamed, as Champ he was selling big numbers, so the promoters and orgs kept him away from Juan Manuel Marquez who was stuck sitting in the MANDATORY challenger spot for over two f*<kin' years while Hamed fought everybody else. Mandatory clearly doesn't mean $#!t in boxing!

    Hamed was a terrific puncher, but Marquez would have took him apart in even more dominant fashion than Barrera did.
    Barrera got the shot that should have been Marquez' because they thought the Prince at least had a chance of winning against Barrera.

    I really believe that an elite Top 3 fighter with solid fundamentals and refined skills on top of that will defeat these unorthodox top guys who rely on speed and athleticism like the Prince, Roy Jones, and Muhammad Ali that really don't know how to box...

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    *Marquez by KO.

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    This one is a no brainer. Hamed would catch a beatdown simliar to the one by Barrera except he wouldnt see the 12th..

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    Hamed's only foray into the Premier league was against Barrera and we all saw what happened there, Marquez is in the Premier league and he wins.
    I've said it before and i will say it again Hamed was the 'Prince' who turned back into a toad. Barrera went on to fight Morales and Pacquiao twice each and Marquez too yet Hamed seeks no rematch with Barrera?
    He loses one fight, then waits another year then retires age 28? (Barrera was the same age as Hamed when they fought) Real champions comeback from defeat, they learn and live to fight another day and overcome setbacks. Marquez is the perfect example.

    Marquez, Pacquiao and Morales all beat Hamed.

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    (ESPN "experts" debate)
    Oxymoron.

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    Had Hamed faced Marquez, Pac would've never gotten credit for inventing the "plank" years later.

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    Marquez makes Hamed look more regular then Mab did. The ducking response in 54321.

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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    Look, don't shoot the messenger. I'm merely sharing an interesting article with my fellow Saddo friends.

    I didn't know the "experts" would vote 5-2 in Naz favour. It just highlights that a KO loss to Naz wouldn't have harmed JMM great career.
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    Default Re: Classic Matchup: Marquez vs. Hamed (ESPN "experts" debate)

    Marquez is an ATG Hamed is not , Marquez by wide UD or 10 round KO.

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