Orlando Salido vs. Vasyl Lomachenko Jan 25 in New York

[TitoFan]

This is why looking at just WINS-LOSSES on a pro record is a waste of time. Say Lomachenko by some chance beats Salido (for the record, I think it's waay too soon for that). Lomachenko would then be 2-0 as a pro. On paper..... does that compare with a 40-0 record? Hell no. But then, add the variable of opponents. A 2-0 record against Ramirez and Salido is a hell of a lot better than a 40-0 record against the town drunks, second cousins, and bums making their own pro debuts. Boxing needs regulation.

[Silkeyjoe]

Lomachenko will win this. No doubt in my mind. Lot of people here dont recognise the skill in amateur boxing and how well it translates to the pros. It doesnt matter how many fights Lomachenko has as a pro when it comes to fighting someone like Salido. This will go very much like Salido v Garcia.

Its comical the people moaning about Lomachenko being fast tracked are the same people who complain about fighters getting moved to slowly. Lomachenko is very good news for professional boxing

[ykdadamaja]

Arum had a coup in my estimation. Arum will be the one to bring quality foreigners to US soil.

[Beanflicker]

This is why looking at just WINS-LOSSES on a pro record is a waste of time. Say Lomachenko by some chance beats Salido (for the record, I think it's waay too soon for that). Lomachenko would then be 2-0 as a pro. On paper..... does that compare with a 40-0 record? Hell no. But then, add the variable of opponents. A 2-0 record against Ramirez and Salido is a hell of a lot better than a 40-0 record against the town drunks, second cousins, and bums making their own pro debuts. Boxing needs regulation.

If he beats Salido, his 2-0 record will be more impressive than Deontay Wilder's 30-0 record (or whatever the fuck he has).

I agree 100% the record padding that goes on now adays is sickening.

I support any guy who wants to bypass that stuff and fight REAL fights right out of the gate.

[jon09]

That is 1 helluva an opponent to have your 2nd career fight with. Whose gonna be #3 Pacman?

[Spicoli]

Quality over quantity. There is a line between padding and refining though and not every guy can ride gold medals into a million dollar payday from jump off. Lets not kid ourselves, Arum is riding his ama promise not his professional accomplishment. Its another planet in pros, as much mentally as physical and Lomachenko has zero room to fall if it goes sideways. I also think its a slap to Salido and guys who have done nothing but grind and earn there bones and scars. The guy becomes champion and in less than 24 hrs Arum props him up as nothing more than a belt warmer. Salido better bring his own judges, own ref and maybe a bat. On the other extreme a guy like Wilder a has don nothing...and he also won a Gold medal.

[Silkeyjoe]

Quality over quantity. There is a line between padding and refining though and not every guy can ride gold medals into a million dollar payday from jump off. Lets not kid ourselves, Arum is riding his ama promise not his professional accomplishment. Its another planet in pros, as much mentally as physical and Lomachenko has zero room to fall if it goes sideways. I also think its a slap to Salido and guys who have done nothing but grind and earn there bones and scars. The guy becomes champion and in less than 24 hrs Arum props him up as nothing more than a belt warmer. Salido better bring his own judges, own ref and maybe a bat. On the other extreme a guy like Wilder a has don nothing...and he also won a Gold medal.

I dont think Salido deserbed a shot at the title he just won coming off a big loss. Im afraid thats how boxing is. A lot of people who dont deserve title shots get them. At least Lomachenko looks class and is genuinely world class. We could put a list of undeserving title shots and it would be a mile long

[Spicoli]

Quality over quantity. There is a line between padding and refining though and not every guy can ride gold medals into a million dollar payday from jump off. Lets not kid ourselves, Arum is riding his ama promise not his professional accomplishment. Its another planet in pros, as much mentally as physical and Lomachenko has zero room to fall if it goes sideways. I also think its a slap to Salido and guys who have done nothing but grind and earn there bones and scars. The guy becomes champion and in less than 24 hrs Arum props him up as nothing more than a belt warmer. Salido better bring his own judges, own ref and maybe a bat. On the other extreme a guy like Wilder a has don nothing...and he also won a Gold medal.

I dont think Salido deserbed a shot at the title he just won coming off a big loss. Im afraid thats how boxing is. A lot of people who dont deserve title shots get them. At least Lomachenko looks class and is genuinely world class. We could put a list of undeserving title shots and it would be a mile long

Totally agree there, Salido just got pretty beat down and the trinket was just forfeited by Garcia. So does Lomanchenko beating him really legitimize? But Salido had done his time and earned his keep at least. It was all in the plot having Lomanchenko on the card and it was either Cruz or Salido. I just don't see Lomanchenko as having earned it either. I'm weary of a boxing world where I'm reading amatuers records to pass for pro credentials and no need to Pete Radamacher-ize the sport. There has to be some seperation and work reward process, then again championship belts had become mere sale tags a longtime ago.

[IamInuit]

This guy is fast becoming a favourite fighter. Its so refreshing to see a guy jump right in to the deep end of the pool instead of hanging out in the toddlers end padding the record.

[Scott22]

I once used baseballs Ichiro to describe Guillermo Rig. A rookie by MLB standards. But in reality already an all star player. I think this guy Vasly falls in that category. He should of been a pro a long time ago.

[beenKOed]

This is why looking at just WINS-LOSSES on a pro record is a waste of time. Say Lomachenko by some chance beats Salido (for the record, I think it's waay too soon for that). Lomachenko would then be 2-0 as a pro. On paper..... does that compare with a 40-0 record? Hell no. But then, add the variable of opponents. A 2-0 record against Ramirez and Salido is a hell of a lot better than a 40-0 record against the town drunks, second cousins, and bums making their own pro debuts. Boxing needs regulation.

I hear you and agree, but when you think about it boxing has plenty of regulation. If you lose more than you win, you don't get to the big money. I hadn't seen Lomachenko until last nite so I'm thinking he's going to get regulated to the back of the pack in January.
Bob Arum is not stupid when it comes to boxing and boxing talent, so there is a question in the back of my mind about what Arum sees that we don't or knows that we don't. The next few months should be interesting.

What the heck is Bob planning Maybe nothing.

[ykdadamaja]

But remember what happens to fighters when they are rushed? Must we say Michael Bentt? In the pro's, during grueling fights, you get hurt.

[Violent Demise]

I liked what I saw from Lomachenko last night. The skill set is obvious. His style is all wrong for Salido. It would be the Garcia fight all over. It was good to see Salido bash the fag. But against Lomachenko I think he's the one getting bashed

[powerpuncher]

the thing with saildo is that he doesnt quit. even when he seems to be losing, he will get better as the fight goes on. if you watched the garcia fight, he started doing well before the fight got stopped. the question is then can lomachenko withstand a late fight surge?

[FinitoElDinamita]

Whatever happens against Salido, Lomachenko isnt going to have it easy and he's going to have to earn the victory cuz Salido is going to pressure him constantly. Loma's heart and durability is going to be tested here.

Huge fan of Salido and I hope he kicks Loma's ass.