Orlando Salido vs. Vasyl Lomachenko Jan 25 in New York

[beenKOed]

This is why looking at just WINS-LOSSES on a pro record is a waste of time. Say Lomachenko by some chance beats Salido (for the record, I think it's waay too soon for that). Lomachenko would then be 2-0 as a pro. On paper..... does that compare with a 40-0 record? Hell no. But then, add the variable of opponents. A 2-0 record against Ramirez and Salido is a hell of a lot better than a 40-0 record against the town drunks, second cousins, and bums making their own pro debuts. Boxing needs regulation.

I hear you and agree, but when you think about it boxing has plenty of regulation. If you lose more than you win, you don't get to the big money. I hadn't seen Lomachenko until last nite so I'm thinking he's going to get regulated to the back of the pack in January.
Bob Arum is not stupid when it comes to boxing and boxing talent, so there is a question in the back of my mind about what Arum sees that we don't or knows that we don't. The next few months should be interesting.

What the heck is Bob planning Maybe nothing.

[ykdadamaja]

But remember what happens to fighters when they are rushed? Must we say Michael Bentt? In the pro's, during grueling fights, you get hurt.

[Violent Demise]

I liked what I saw from Lomachenko last night. The skill set is obvious. His style is all wrong for Salido. It would be the Garcia fight all over. It was good to see Salido bash the fag. But against Lomachenko I think he's the one getting bashed

[powerpuncher]

the thing with saildo is that he doesnt quit. even when he seems to be losing, he will get better as the fight goes on. if you watched the garcia fight, he started doing well before the fight got stopped. the question is then can lomachenko withstand a late fight surge?

[FinitoElDinamita]

Whatever happens against Salido, Lomachenko isnt going to have it easy and he's going to have to earn the victory cuz Salido is going to pressure him constantly. Loma's heart and durability is going to be tested here.

Huge fan of Salido and I hope he kicks Loma's ass.

[erics44]

it isnt just the fight against salido thats the issue, he has to sustain it then and stay at that level

unless he gives up the belt

[Spicoli]

it isnt just the fight against salido thats the issue, he has to sustain it then and stay at that level

unless he gives up the belt

Given the expectations and weight put on this kid it'll be very very difficult to go backwards and hit reset if things go sideways, as they often do in the ring on any given night. He obviously has pedigree but its not been plied in extreme fire. To me, this is far far more about Bob Arum than it is Lomanchenko and there just isn't a need. He's THAT quality build, dust a couple top contenders and expand the general fan base beyond hardcore fans. Fighting fights early doesnt mean they have to be 'stiffs'. Ffs let the kid fight to be seen and enjoy the fruits of his labor. Straight out of the pan into the fire and you do not get to 'learn backwards'.

He needs to think long term, Arum with the gold bricks will dump his ass in a minute if "shit happens" and then what base does he have for himself, career and profession.

[Silkeyjoe]

Whatever happens against Salido, Lomachenko isnt going to have it easy and he's going to have to earn the victory cuz Salido is going to pressure him constantly. Loma's heart and durability is going to be tested here.

Huge fan of Salido and I hope he kicks Loma's ass.

Yea we know you love every cheat out there

[Rantcatrat]

@Silkeyjoe - I found that Lomachenko relied on his footwork a little too much without throwing enough punches and looking for the perfect shot. Salido will win rounds moving forward. That's his whole style and he won't easily bend to punches. Lomachenko also covered up frequently. Undoubtedly, it looks like he is incredibly advanced in terms of skill set, but that there are still things in the professional ranks that he can work on, and that is why perhaps it is too early to face Salido now.

[greynotsoold]

Whatever happens against Salido, Lomachenko isnt going to have it easy and he's going to have to earn the victory cuz Salido is going to pressure him constantly. Loma's heart and durability is going to be tested here.

Huge fan of Salido and I hope he kicks Loma's ass.

Yea we know you love every cheat out there

How and who did Salido cheat?

[FinitoElDinamita]

Whatever happens against Salido, Lomachenko isnt going to have it easy and he's going to have to earn the victory cuz Salido is going to pressure him constantly. Loma's heart and durability is going to be tested here.

Huge fan of Salido and I hope he kicks Loma's ass.

Yea we know you love every cheat out there

Dont act like your shit dont stink. We all fuck up sometime.

Im a fan of Salido because he has heart and nothing was handed to him..

[ykdadamaja]

This is why looking at just WINS-LOSSES on a pro record is a waste of time. Say Lomachenko by some chance beats Salido (for the record, I think it's waay too soon for that). Lomachenko would then be 2-0 as a pro. On paper..... does that compare with a 40-0 record? Hell no. But then, add the variable of opponents. A 2-0 record against Ramirez and Salido is a hell of a lot better than a 40-0 record against the town drunks, second cousins, and bums making their own pro debuts. Boxing needs regulation.

I hear you and agree, but when you think about it boxing has plenty of regulation. If you lose more than you win, you don't get to the big money. I hadn't seen Lomachenko until last nite so I'm thinking he's going to get regulated to the back of the pack in January.
Bob Arum is not stupid when it comes to boxing and boxing talent, so there is a question in the back of my mind about what Arum sees that we don't or knows that we don't. The next few months should be interesting.

What the heck is Bob planning Maybe nothing.

Arum has made history by having the shortest record champion ever. If all goes according to plan, he would have the shortest record world champion in Lomanchenko. Champion in 2 fights?

Arum saw that body shot Lom hit Ramirez with in Lom's gym against his sparring partners... the guy (Lomanchenko) can pour it on, no doubt.