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Holmes
Dempsey
Johnson
Foreman
Lewis
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Walcott
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Bowe
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Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?
Top 10 All Time (not in order):
Marciano
Louis
Ali
Holmes
Dempsey
Johnson
Foreman
Lewis
Frazier
Holyfield
11-20
Schmeling
Baer
Tunney
Liston
Walcott
Norton
Tyson
Charles
Bowe
Jeffries
21-30
Shavers
K1
K2
no higher than 22 and 23
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Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?
16-25. Tyson stops him in 2 and Ali bamboozles him in 7.
Vitali Klitschko is the better fighter of the two.
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Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?
I disagree with a lot of what is usually said about the Klitschkos.
1. I firmly believe, peak for peak, Wlad was the superior brother. He never had Vitali's chin but I think his boxing skills surpassed those of his brother.
2. I think Wlad and Vitali often suffer from the perception that cleaning out the division was a two man job as opposed to one individual, and to a certain extent that is true.
3. I don't buy the fact that this HW division is as weak as people think.
4. With the skills and size that Wlad has, he's a brutal night for ANY HW fighter in the history of the sport.
I rank him top 10 for sure.
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Tyson is quite short and it may take him a few rounds to catch Wlad, but once he did...Originally Posted by Gandalf
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Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?
If the word is to mean something, Wlad, like all but arguably the top five or so (purely) Heavyweights is not a great.
As for his placing in the grand scheme of things, I would say he is top 30, slightly behind big brother, who was more consistent.
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Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?
Why? I mean given the length of reign as champion, the amount of title fights, the successful defenses in a row, the sheer dominance he has shown...why only "top 30"? And why behind Vitali?
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Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?
He hasnt ever even been the undisputed best in his own era so very, very low.
Go back through all the greats over the years, there was never another fighter around that could also letitimately call himself a world champion.
There are fighters he couldnt beat that his brother had to fight.
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Such as?
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Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?
He has never been the generally recognized Heavyweight Champion of the World. He has beaten everything put in front of him comfortably for coming up for a decade, but the era is so weak and THE meaningful fight so untouchable, it hurts his resume.Why? I mean given the length of reign as champion, the amount of title fights, the successful defenses in a row, the sheer dominance he has shown...why only "top 30"? And why behind Vitali?
As for Vitali over Wlad, well as a big Brother myself, I would not for one second, not belief I would be the dominant brother in 'physical altercations', no matter that I have not had a 'brawl' with my brothers in 15/20 years! Also Vitali did not get blown away in his pomp like Wlad did early in his peak years.
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Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?
How many times did Tyson defend his titles ross? I mean since your buddy Tyson is an "All-time great" and all
Wlad's peak years have come since he had Manny Steward as trainer. As for "He has never been the generally recognized Heavyweight Champion of the World" that's bullcrap and you know it. Also this "The era is weak" #1 Wlad has 0 control over how good whoever he fights is and #2 Other fighters have had weak eras and haven't accomplished what he has.
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Not sure if I missed it but where is Ali!?
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