Andre Ward has refused to participate in the VADA testing

[DavilaJones]

Well...I can't really say Ward juices since he doesn't KO anyone really but outboxes them. I'm just rather surprised is all.

[Freedom]

Before the fight was signed, Ward verbally agreed to PED testing. But now he's going back on his word:

[TitoFan]

Before the fight was signed, Ward verbally agreed to PED testing. But now he's going back on his word:

Would've been a more effective interview if someone had told those people in the back to STFU.

[jehoshaphat]

Before the fight was signed, Ward verbally agreed to PED testing. But now he's going back on his word:

Someone is trying to spin things Where in the video did he say he agreed to VADA testing before the fight was signed? In fact, at the press conference AFTER the fight was signed Rodriguez called Ward out for VADA testing. Ward later replied to Rodriguez that he didn't say a single thing about PED testing during the entire negotiations and then when he got in the press conference he all of a sudden brings up PED testing and directs it at Ward as if he was hinting or insinuating something. Watch the conference it was intended to offend Ward which I think it did.

[TitoFan]

There should be one, and only one, answer by boxers to questions about testing:

"Bring it."

Of course, as long as the other guy's doing it also.

[Ron Swanson]

If he's making a stand for a purpose I support him. The commissions should be required to hire independent agencies to perform these tasks. It shouldn't be on the fighters to ensure a level playing field.

If he's not testing as a f you to the opponent I support him on that too. If you want testing bring it up in negotiations not in front of the media.

If he's ducking the tests because he's dirty may Satan rape SOG for eternity

[ruthless rocco]

i'm certain andre ward has done a lot of different steroids and drugs while recovering and rehabilitating after his injuries and surgery... maybe he's scared to stop using or maybe he knows he didn't stop in time for them to have cleared out of his system.

[IamInuit]

i'm certain andre ward has done a lot of different steroids and drugs while recovering and rehabilitating after his injuries and surgery... maybe he's scared to stop using or maybe he knows he didn't stop in time for them to have cleared out of his system.

Leap much my friend? If he's on an injury regiment of roids then all involved are well aware of it. Unlike Lamont's half assed crew.

[IamInuit]

I dont blame Ward. The media establishment is starting to get a little stupid now. They dont even talk about the topic for 30 years and now since Manny/Floyd, any athlete for any fight that does not agree to additional testing is guilty. What made the Floyd/Manny circus news worthy in that regard was the fact that it could have been a 100 million dollar fight after all was said and done. Wards making a statement whether he knows it or not. The boxing establishment does not really want to catch the cheaters. If it did a newer designed testing regiment would have been implemented from the ground up long ago.It would be enforced by commissions and the boxing orgs. Fact of the matter is, they dont want testing programs that might actually catch people. This window dressing they use in an attempt to show steps are being made does not fool me.

[erics44]

Well...I can't really say Ward juices since he doesn't KO anyone really but outboxes them. I'm just rather surprised is all.

Are the only people that juice those that knock people out?

[Beanflicker]

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the tested athlete has to pay for the additional VADA testing, which is a decent amount of money.

If that's true, I can see why a guy who fights clean would say "fuck that, why should I have to pay out of pocket to prove I'm not on steroids." Because in reality it's not the athlete's job to prove he's clean, it's the responsibility of the athletic boards to catch cheaters.

But if Ward promised to take VADA testing, then for sure he should live up to his agreement.

[Beanflicker]

BTW, I love the fact that people are doubting he uses PED's because he's not a big knockout puncher. It shows the general ignorance fans have of PED's and their MANY applications.

[Rantcatrat]

I dont blame Ward. The media establishment is starting to get a little stupid now. They dont even talk about the topic for 30 years and now since Manny/Floyd, any athlete for any fight that does not agree to additional testing is guilty. What made the Floyd/Manny circus news worthy in that regard was the fact that it could have been a 100 million dollar fight after all was said and done. Wards making a statement whether he knows it or not. The boxing establishment does not really want to catch the cheaters. If it did a newer designed testing regiment would have been implemented from the ground up long ago.It would be enforced by commissions and the boxing orgs. Fact of the matter is, they dont want testing programs that might actually catch people. This window dressing they use in an attempt to show steps are being made does not fool me.

I disagree 100%. Take the damn test. Since the Pacquiao/Mayweather situation, if you are a fighter getting paid HBO money to fight, there are no excuses for not taking the test. In a perfect world, the commissions and the boxing organizations would make strict drug testing mandatory for all boxers, but we're not in a perfect world. If you are clean, prove it, be the example for clean competition, not the other way around. So far, Donaire is the only competitor I'm aware of that is on 24/7/365 testing. He shouldn't be the only one. Marquez should have taken the tests. Ward should take the tests. That's it.

i'm certain andre ward has done a lot of different steroids and drugs while recovering and rehabilitating after his injuries and surgery... maybe he's scared to stop using or maybe he knows he didn't stop in time for them to have cleared out of his system.

@ruthless rocco, wasn't that Braun's excuse? Someone should ask Ward what drugs he took during his recovery from injury.

[IamInuit]

I dont blame Ward. The media establishment is starting to get a little stupid now. They dont even talk about the topic for 30 years and now since Manny/Floyd, any athlete for any fight that does not agree to additional testing is guilty. What made the Floyd/Manny circus news worthy in that regard was the fact that it could have been a 100 million dollar fight after all was said and done. Wards making a statement whether he knows it or not. The boxing establishment does not really want to catch the cheaters. If it did a newer designed testing regiment would have been implemented from the ground up long ago.It would be enforced by commissions and the boxing orgs. Fact of the matter is, they dont want testing programs that might actually catch people. This window dressing they use in an attempt to show steps are being made does not fool me.

I disagree 100%. Take the damn test. Since the Pacquiao/Mayweather situation, if you are a fighter getting paid HBO money to fight, there are no excuses for not taking the test. In a perfect world, the commissions and the boxing organizations would make strict drug testing mandatory for all boxers, but we're not in a perfect world. If you are clean, prove it, be the example for clean competition, not the other way around. So far, Donaire is the only competitor I'm aware of that is on 24/7/365 testing. He shouldn't be the only one. Marquez should have taken the tests. Ward should take the tests. That's it.

Disagreement is allowed. Look if boxers are now to be expected to extra testing then make it a damn law or rule or whatever and the Organizations, Commissions and broadcasters who pimp them can pay for the tests. Either everyone does it or forget it. You don't start singling out certain fighters or fights, you do a full court press. They have random drug tests in many workplaces. You mean to tell me these people cant figure out a way to fund a program? Of course they could but they don't want to. They would lose to many highlight reels and probably half of the stars. I don't like Ward but I doubt he cheats. He seems like one of these straighter then straight guys that was raised by Ozzie and Harriet.

i'm certain andre ward has done a lot of different steroids and drugs while recovering and rehabilitating after his injuries and surgery... maybe he's scared to stop using or maybe he knows he didn't stop in time for them to have cleared out of his system.

@ruthless rocco, wasn't that Braun's excuse? Someone should ask Ward what drugs he took during his recovery from injury.

A little hasty fellas. He might be using for injury rehab and he could also test in the allowable levels for that. That is why Lamont got his belt back. Him refusing testing does not mean therefore that he would test over those limits. This thread is a giant rush to judgement. Seems a slippery slope to me without a demand via rule changes. I bet Provo and Alvarado did not use VADA so by the standards on display here they must both be cheats.

[ross]

Refusing testing on its own should invoke a ban.

If an athlete misses a test they get instantly banned like Christine Ohurugu who was given honours by the queen and everyone seems to love even though shes a cheating little bitch.