Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

[ross]

Lyle, come back to me when Wlad has made 6 successfull defences of all 3 belts and there is no other fighter active that anyone thinks would beat him.

Get real!

"Wlad is the greatest heavy out there right now"

What about Vitali?

"He doesnt count"

[El Kabong]

Lyle, come back to me when Wlad has made 6 successfull defences of all 3 belts and there is no other fighter active that anyone thinks would beat you.

Get real!

"Wlad is the greatest heavy out there right now"

What about Vitali?

"He doesnt count"

THE.....BROTHERS.....WILL.......NOT.......FIGHT... ...EACH.....OTHER

How many more times must it be said? How many different ways? Do I need to translate it for you?

So the ONLY reason Wlad isn't considered great to you is because Vitali?

You recall the IBF title right? The title Tyson won off of Tony Tucker, the title he defended 7 times until his defeat to James 'Buster' Douglas. Yeah, well see Wlad has defended THAT title 15 times. That's DOUBLE what Tyson did +1 to grow on...but you were saying about Tyson?

[ross]

Lyle, come back to me when Wlad has made 6 successfull defences of all 3 belts and there is no other fighter active that anyone thinks would beat you.

Get real!

"Wlad is the greatest heavy out there right now"

What about Vitali?

"He doesnt count"

THE.....BROTHERS.....WILL.......NOT.......FIGHT... ...EACH.....OTHER

How many more times must it be said? How many different ways? Do I need to translate it for you?

So the ONLY reason Wlad isn't considered great to you is because Vitali?

You recall the IBF title right? The title Tyson won off of Tony Tucker, the title he defended 7 times until his defeat to James 'Buster' Douglas. Yeah, well see Wlad has defended THAT title 15 times. That's DOUBLE what Tyson did +1 to grow on...but you were saying about Tyson?

Mike didnt have a tag team partner to take on the fighters he didnt fancy. Or to come and beat up the Corrie Sandersers

Mike put all the titles together and held on to them for the longest run of defences ever.

Wlad will never be regarded as THE best because of his brother and whos fault is that? His own. He could have taken that WBC belt from Peter but he didn't. He will now have to wait u ntil Vitali loses or quits to have a chance of being THE man.

[El Kabong]

Mike didnt have a tag team partner to take on the fighters he didnt fancy. Or to come and beat up the Corrie Sandersers

Mike put all the titles together and held on to them for the longest run of defences ever.

Wlad will never be regarded as THE best because of his brother and whos fault is that? His own. He could have taken that WBC belt from Peter but he didn't. He will now have to wait u ntil Vitali loses or quits to have a chance of being THE man.

#1. Did Mike Tyson ever avenge a defeat? Did Mike Tyson ever get off the canvas to win a match? As for "Tag Team partner", how about Don King? You DO know that the judges in the Douglas fight were going to allow Mike to keep the belts.....had he finished the fight right? Look at the scorecards, grade A DKP cronyism.

#2. Joe Louis, 25 in a row Tyson doesn't even come close to matching THAT kind of dominance. You can brag about the 3 belts Tyson had, but there are even more belts now, Wlad holds 4: IBF, IBO, WBO, WBA...and also The Ring title. So if 3 is "good" then how does 5 suit you? Wlad still has to make mandatory defenses of those titles, but he also does optional defenses too ergo his doubling+1 of Tyson's defenses of the IBF title.

#3. Wlad was champion while Vitali was retired. He has dominated his era FACT. There's nobody that Vitali fought in his comeback that Wlad couldn't beat.

[Mr140]

How long was Vitali retired actually i forgot about that how long was that time period. If it was a few years then i guess Wald would of been the man for that time period and i am sure his brother will retire before he does so has a few more years if he wants to have to see.

[El Kabong]

How long was Vitali retired actually i forgot about that how long was that time period. If it was a few years then i guess Wald would of been the man for that time period and i am sure his brother will retire before he does so has a few more years if he wants to have to see.

There was 4 years between the Danny Williams fight and the Sam Peter fight

[Mr140]

Well that would make him the man during that time then i say he stronger case for top ten if that is true. I mean Vatili not fighting for 4 years and i think Wald was ranked at the top during that time as well i will have to check that out and see.

[ross]

How long was Vitali retired actually i forgot about that how long was that time period. If it was a few years then i guess Wald would of been the man for that time period and i am sure his brother will retire before he does so has a few more years if he wants to have to see.

There was 4 years between the Danny Williams fight and the Sam Peter fight

Also another belt holder, so no single champ.

Wlad could have fought and beaten them but chose not to for whatever reason. Someone who's dominant would have won and defended all of them, not let any pretenders on the scene.

Mike Tyson my not have avenged his defeats but he was THE dominant u disputed world champ for an extended run of fights. Wlad had never done that and he didn't want to get in the ring with Sanders again either