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    Default Re: Do or Die: Bobby Gunn to meet Roy Jones Jr in December!

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post

    Lamotta outweighed Robinson, he lost to him 5 times, Lamotta was very lucky to win the title in the last round, he was fortunate to have a great chin.

    Yup. Lamotta is one of the most overrated fighters of all time. He basically is regarded as one of the greatest because of ONE fucking win over Robinson who, as you pointed out, was SEVERELY outweighed.

    On the night of the fight, Jake had to cut weight to make 160, while Robinson, without cutting weight, weighed in at 144 - he didn't even make Welterweight, let alone middleweight. So it was a middleweight NARROWLY beating a junior welterweight... who gives a shit? If Golovkin beat the shit out of Danny Garcia, what would that prove? People always forget this fact.

    Also, there's a misconception that Lamotta was a huge puncher... he wasn't!! He wasn't a dynamic, one punch guy. He was strong as an ox but he was a pressure fighter. He was a brief champ who wasn't able to defend his belt once. He doesn't belong in the same conversation as Roy Jones.

    Taking Lamotta over Jones really is one of the dumbest opinions somebody could have in boxing. It's just such a boneheaded thing to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post

    Lamotta outweighed Robinson, he lost to him 5 times, Lamotta was very lucky to win the title in the last round, he was fortunate to have a great chin.

    Yup. Lamotta is one of the most overrated fighters of all time. He basically is regarded as one of the greatest because of ONE fucking win over Robinson who, as you pointed out, was SEVERELY outweighed.

    On the night of the fight, Jake had to cut weight to make 160, while Robinson, without cutting weight, weighed in at 144 - he didn't even make Welterweight, let alone middleweight. So it was a middleweight NARROWLY beating a junior welterweight... who gives a shit? If Golovkin beat the shit out of Danny Garcia, what would that prove? People always forget this fact.

    Also, there's a misconception that Lamotta was a huge puncher... he wasn't!! He wasn't a dynamic, one punch guy. He was strong as an ox but he was a pressure fighter. He was a brief champ who wasn't able to defend his belt once. He doesn't belong in the same conversation as Roy Jones.

    Taking Lamotta over Jones really is one of the dumbest opinions somebody could have in boxing. It's just such a boneheaded thing to think.
    Lamotta only had 20 something wins by KO outta over 100 fights.

    Greynotsoold is NOT an idiot nor should he be killed. He knows boxing very well. I just think he has a real dislike for Roy Jones, perhaps because he broke all the fundamentals of boxing and still was so great.

    I started another thread about Jorge Fernando Castro, he fought Roy n lost a wide UD. If expect a Lamotta fight to resemble that. Was Lamotta tougher than Castro? I doubt it. Nobody was IMO.

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    Looks like the worst part is he just wants to springboard into a meaningless cash grab with mma Silva. For that reason alone I'd like to see Gunn leave him horizontal

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