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    [QUOTE=p4pking;1197511]Well sure, but Lou Reed wasn't limited like that was my point. I like the V.U. more than The Smiths though so I can't pretend to be impartial regardless of how you compare the two men I'll admit.
    Of course Morrissey was a very talented lyricist and singer. He was crucial to the Smiths sound, but no moreso than Marr for my money is all. I could listen to a number of their tunes without lyrics and there are some I would rather were recorded that way frankly. Marr was a terrific guitar player and arranger, most of their songs are extremely good instrumentally and Morrissey had nothing to do with that.
    As far as the collaboration point of course you're right, but the fact is that McCartney, Lennon, Reed and Cale were all more than capable musicians and great composers in their own right. Morrissey was neither of these things and really shouldn't be in the same category, as much as his new autobiography will no doubt try and convince otherwise.[/QUOTE]

    going to read it then or just spout opinion.

    So I'm the only one who has actually bought a copy then?

    as for Morrissey and Marr...it's a similar situation to Biafra and the Dead Kennedys (even though you can't read music doesn't stop you composing it!) anyhooo. Morrissey, as far as I'm aware has not claimed to have written any smiths music. Marr used to hand him a basic track and he'd write to it. People are forgetting what a significant frontman/mouthpeice Morrissey was in terms of building the Smiths career.

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    I was really into the Smiths for years and have seen a bunch of Morrissey interviews, he has an incredibly high opinion of himself wouldn't you agree? I think he's a shitty person and have already said I wouldn't care to read anything of his, but I give him full credit for being a great singer and frontman. He forged a great identify for himself and the band and I've only pointed out that he isn't a musician of the same calibre as some others mentioned here, I do enjoy him though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I was really into the Smiths for years and have seen a bunch of Morrissey interviews, he has an incredibly high opinion of himself wouldn't you agree? I think he's a shitty person and have already said I wouldn't care to read anything of his, but I give him full credit for being a great singer and frontman. He forged a great identify for himself and the band and I've only pointed out that he isn't a musician of the same calibre as some others mentioned here, I do enjoy him though.
    singers aren't musicians?

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    How would you deduce that from my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    How would you deduce that from my post
    I was asking the question.

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    I'm about half way through, and I think it is a cracking read. Morrissey can write and is hilariously funny too. There have been a number of times where I have laughed at the way he has told a story or phrased something in a way only Morrissey would. You know most sprinters can't run a long distance race effectively, but Morrissey more than holds his own in being able to write a book. I try to avoid reading anything that doesn't interest me, but you know most books are shit. This is not a shit book, it's a genuinely well written book. Morrissey's depiction of his childhood is particularly strong. If anything it's much more Dickens than Wilde. Though I do love how he will use certain words which might well go over the heads of many modern readers. Using the term 'psychological' as a reason for avoiding the cane is an obvious reference to homosexuality in the Victorian usage of the term and it is noticing arch little things like that you yourself raise an eyebrow. Morrissey is too literate for this pop-star autobiography business. It's good, though I hear the court case at the end lowers it all slightly with 50 pages of moaning. I will be the judge of that. I mean the judge of the 50 pages, not the actual court case, which is long in the past in the minds of all but Morrissey himself.

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