Does total punch output mean you should win the fight?

[IamInuit]

Well here is the thing if a guy is landing punches that are solid and has no power is he effective or if can't hurt the guy because of his chin. Effective punching pretty subjective really and damage on a fighter not always the telling how the fight went i wish there was a better system at time for judging.

There is nothing wrong with the 10 point must system. The problem is with some that use it. Some are the best trained but the worst educated. Some think that the more you complicate things the more evolved it becomes. That is fine for an Iphone.Compubox numbers muddy the water even further and should not imo be used on broadcasts to the extent that they are. When the bring out those silly body suits and suggest the body punch count and placement I just about hurl.

They should remove the judges from ringside. There are to many blind spots and to many distractions. Give them the same camera angles we get. Many of the judges act like pseudo celebrities. Make them do what they are there to do w/o Pamela Andersons camel toe in the direct line of sight on the other side of the ring.

[Spicoli]

The crash test dummy graph that HBO uses. Has to be one of the most ridiculous uses of empty eye candy going.

And for god sakes just introduce the judges as you do the ref...make them stand, face to name on camera...and announce the e mail and home state

[Dia bando]

Punches landed ask Jeff Lacy after he been hit by hundreds of punches,! by Calzaghe Jeff
looked like a Gargoyle after the fight.

[J_Undisputed]

The crash test dummy graph that HBO uses. Has to be one of the most ridiculous uses of empty eye candy going.

And for god sakes just introduce the judges as you do the ref...make them stand, face to name on camera...and announce the e mail and home state

Love the idea. They appear on a close up have to look into the camera while their score is on the bottom of the screen.... we'll know who got their pockets lined too...


"Ladies and Gentlemen we have a split decision.....and Judge (Insert name)
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has scored the bout..... "

[Sleepwalker]

Jim "Bang....Bang....Bang" Lampley says yes it does

[SlimTrae]

Well here is the thing if a guy is landing punches that are solid and has no power is he effective or if can't hurt the guy because of his chin. Effective punching pretty subjective really and damage on a fighter not always the telling how the fight went i wish there was a better system at time for judging.

There is nothing wrong with the 10 point must system. The problem is with some that use it. Some are the best trained but the worst educated. Some think that the more you complicate things the more evolved it becomes. That is fine for an Iphone.Compubox numbers muddy the water even further and should not imo be used on broadcasts to the extent that they are. When the bring out those silly body suits and suggest the body punch count and placement I just about hurl.

They should remove the judges from ringside. There are to many blind spots and to many distractions. Give them the same camera angles we get. Many of the judges act like pseudo celebrities. Make them do what they are there to do w/o Pamela Andersons camel toe in the direct line of sight on the other side of the ring.

Iaminut makes a point I'd bring up. They should remove the judges from ringside.
When the Fight goes to a corner, one judge is on the opposite side. Plus having to look up, sometimes a ring rope Hinders vision...especially for body punches.
I've been 2nd row before. Great view when the fight is on my side. Not so much so on the other side.

Maybe this is goofy..but I would place judges on high chairs like in tennis.no obstruction of view.

Ôur sport is the most subjective.our point system is based on Subjective/opinionated scoring.
A hard punch(point) landed can change the score when compared to a lesser or weak punch. I'm not sure this is a good thing.

American football is a great example that proves my point. Just imagine 2 touchdowns scored per team.
Twice...Team one marches 80 yards. Joe Montana style. (10 ) plays short dump passes longest play was 8 yards...scored with a one yard run. Chewed up 40 out of 60 minutes.
I'd see this team as a boxer who threw twice as much..and time of possession is equated to ring General ship, controlling the tempo of the fight./game.

Team two time of possession:20 minutes. Both scores were 80 yards for a single play. This is equivalent to 2 bone breaking shots.
But the sport football didn't negate the other team's score.

So if a boxer throws 100 punches..landed 20 pity pat shots controlling 2 minutes of the round vs their foe who throws 45 Punches landing 15 while snapping their head back ripping his foes eye..controlling only one minute of the round...
He still landed less...I'm supposed to erase what occurred the first two minutes

If a Fighter lands more, he should be credited with it.

Because we add subjective criteria effective punching...
Ring General ship..trying to separate clean punches from partially blocked...
Even though WE ALL have seen fights where a partially blocked shot has a greater impact then a clean shot...Because that fighter wasn't blessed with power.

Sorry for the rant...I guess I'm trying to say..we kill our own ability to properly score a fight when we add on something other than shots landed.

[frasd]

I think it was Kellerman that said the way he judged a round is which guy he would rather be at the end of it. Simple but makes sense to me.

[SlimTrae]

I think it was Kellerman that said the way he judged a round is which guy he would rather be at the end of it. Simple but makes sense to me.

In theory I agree. But I would have to rule against any Joe Calzaghe fight, Pernell Whitaker Fight with that criteria.