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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Firtha isn't a very good opponent for a 29-0, 29 KO boxer. Here he is against Tye Fields:


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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Yeah I wouldn't classify anyone who gets KO'd by Tye Fields to be much competition. Hopefully now Deontay has had his share of stiffs and is ready to take it to the next level.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Fucking hell!

    Wilder was hurt by the first JAB that Firtha threw!

    He got a bit of exeperience against someone who is fairly tough but this is someone Fury fought in his 15 th fight not his 30th and in the Fury fight Firtha looked in better condition to boot.

    Wilder is soooo sloppy when attacking. Wide open and most of his shots completely miss. The knockdowns he was awarded were more pushes.

    He needs more of these tough men type opponents in quick succession. Any talk of Arreola or anyone imside the top 15 is too soon based on what I saw. He will end up like Price if they jump too high too fast. You can see hes still learning. Hes not terrible but he should be far better having 30 fights. He fights like hes had just a handfull of bouts rsuhing his own work.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Maybe we should just resign ourselves to the fact that Deontay Wilder has found his own niche, and neither he nor his handlers are in any hurry to venture away from the safety of that niche. Maybe Wilder will end his career at 50-0, with 50 KO's..... and will be happy being nothing more than a curious footnote in the pages of boxing history.

    I for one, am tired of waiting for anything more.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Never Saw wilder before last night. Thank God. Part michael grant, part kayode, with a sprinkle of dawson. Yeesh. Wide winging shots, loading up, overextending, carrying his hands low... A lot of mistakes stem from his attitude. The next attraction in the size + athleticism sideshow in the HW division as long as they keep restocking the plodders, weathered journeymen, timid guys that like to pace themselves, etc.. Keep him the hell away from sharp counter punchers, straight punchers with reach, guys with head movement that know how to circle out, and guys with stubby hooks that will throw with him on the inside. Anyone else see some ugly KO's coming to this guy when glancing into his future? This decade's Derrick Jefferson. Just my opinion of course.
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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    He makes mistakes and they are becoming repetitive and he's digging a deep hole growing stale at this level, not correcting and not learning. He has a casual false confidence thing going on, the kissing the camera, the electric boogaloo dancing after a ko, dropping hands and smirking at this level. A ko of a Firtha was 100% expected and a confident self aware guy should react composed. The dude is getting way to far ahead of his actual accomplishment and I think he is standing on the track using the light of the oncoming train to read his own headlines. I see him getting badly beat when he finds the stones to go from the kiddie pool into the ocean. He's losing the gradual transition opportunity most fighters get and has enough cans on his record to open a soup kitchen.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    ...... and I think he is standing on the track using the light of the oncoming train to read his own headlines...
    Couldn't have said it better myself. Golden boy knows this. Wilder is golden boy working an angle in a barren American heavyweight division. Find a big Kid, build him up and make him a star, get him a title fight and bet against him and cash out.
    They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Wilder is the new Butterbean.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    @ross at it again. You mean Wilder was momentarily knocked off balance from a jab right? You want to see hurt from a jab look at about a minute into the first round, Firtha stops coming forward after eating one.

    Firtha did OK with the 60 seconds of fight he had in him. Areola would be a serious test for Wilder. Not sure how well he copes with a guy that keeps marauding forward. Take away Wilders punching room and he looks pretty useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    @ross at it again. You mean Wilder was momentarily knocked off balance from a jab right? You want to see hurt from a jab look at about a minute into the first round, Firtha stops coming forward after eating one.

    Firtha did OK with the 60 seconds of fight he had in him. Areola would be a serious test for Wilder. Not sure how well he copes with a guy that keeps marauding forward. Take away Wilders punching room and he looks pretty useless.

    He wasnt just knocked off balance.

    Firtha had no intention of winning or he wouldnt have turned upin the shape that he did but Wilder did barely anything more impressive than a 15 fight novice (Fury) did 4 years ago

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    I agree. Fury did a much better job of stumbling around the ring grabbing hold like a limpet because you've just been chinned.
    When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Anyone see the press conference These people are off there rocker. Turns out Firtha is a Wlad sparring partner, he and Wilder worked together. I didn't know that. He's running on like this was a major defining victory..."showed my sniper punches, came back hard and took some really hard shots from a very tough dude" on and on.

    Schaffer couldn't even get Stiverne name right...Chris Stiverne. I'm calling horseshit on this whole manufactured ordeal. What a joke. I want a U.S champ but one that is required to win more than a lone meaningful fight ffs. Stiverne better have a test taster try his lunch in the lead up first.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    @ross at it again. You mean Wilder was momentarily knocked off balance from a jab right? You want to see hurt from a jab look at about a minute into the first round, Firtha stops coming forward after eating one.

    Firtha did OK with the 60 seconds of fight he had in him. Areola would be a serious test for Wilder. Not sure how well he copes with a guy that keeps marauding forward. Take away Wilders punching room and he looks pretty useless.

    He wasnt just knocked off balance.

    Firtha had no intention of winning or he wouldnt have turned upin the shape that he did but Wilder did barely anything more impressive than a 15 fight novice (Fury) did 4 years ago
    I have just watched the fight and Firtha had fury in way more trouble than he had wilder.
    Wilder has big power and a punchers chance against anyone.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder VS Nicolai Firtha on the Hops undercard..

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    @ross at it again. You mean Wilder was momentarily knocked off balance from a jab right? You want to see hurt from a jab look at about a minute into the first round, Firtha stops coming forward after eating one.

    Firtha did OK with the 60 seconds of fight he had in him. Areola would be a serious test for Wilder. Not sure how well he copes with a guy that keeps marauding forward. Take away Wilders punching room and he looks pretty useless.

    He wasnt just knocked off balance.

    Firtha had no intention of winning or he wouldnt have turned upin the shape that he did but Wilder did barely anything more impressive than a 15 fight novice (Fury) did 4 years ago
    I have just watched the fight and Firtha had fury in way more trouble than he had wilder.
    Wilder has big power and a punchers chance against anyone.
    Wilder has has 30 fights and hes fighting people that Fury was when he had 15 fights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    @ross at it again. You mean Wilder was momentarily knocked off balance from a jab right? You want to see hurt from a jab look at about a minute into the first round, Firtha stops coming forward after eating one.

    Firtha did OK with the 60 seconds of fight he had in him. Areola would be a serious test for Wilder. Not sure how well he copes with a guy that keeps marauding forward. Take away Wilders punching room and he looks pretty useless.

    He wasnt just knocked off balance.

    Firtha had no intention of winning or he wouldnt have turned upin the shape that he did but Wilder did barely anything more impressive than a 15 fight novice (Fury) did 4 years ago
    I have just watched the fight and Firtha had fury in way more trouble than he had wilder.
    Wilder has big power and a punchers chance against anyone.
    That's what I think too. It's still a damned shame that we're talking a fighter who could be a couple of fights from a world title and we haven't seen him go past four rounds.
    Almost unbelievable. It reminds me of when Pete Rademacher fought Floyd Patterson, for the title in his first pro fight. If you didn't follow amateur boxing at that time, you probably didn't even know who Rademacher was.

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