Rosado claims 3G tampered with gloves

[IamInuit]

Exactly, stop whining and worry about the good fight you just lost, gun for a rematch, whatever.

The kid comes across as genuine to me but as everyone is pointing out the timing is suspect. Sure he was offered the gloves and refused but as devils advocate conspiracy theorists might claim that was a bluff and it worked since Rosado did not take him up on it.

My problem is that if he had a figurative feeling prior to the fight then he must have had a literal feeling both during and after the fight. They should have made their case at that very moment like when Collins Sr. shook Restos hands after he essentially killed his son. There was ample opportunity to lodge a protest and demand to have the gloves weighed and guts checked. In addition they could have checked the gloves again while they witnessed the hands being wrapped.

[Beanflicker]

My problem is that if he had a figurative feeling prior to the fight then he must have had a literal feeling both during and after the fight. They should have made their case at that very moment like when Collins Sr. shook Restos hands after he essentially killed his son. There was ample opportunity to lodge a protest and demand to have the gloves weighed and guts checked. In addition they could have checked the gloves again while they witnessed the hands being wrapped.

I agree, and it's a sad fact but it's a reality that in boxing you really have to be proactive in protecting yourself out there. Because the majority of the athletic commisions are completely useless.

Who's to say how many people use doctored gloves and get away with it? To think, the athletic commision let Resto go out there and nearly kill Collins, and he would have gotten away with it free if it wasn't for Collins Sr shaking Resto's hand. Margarito would have gone out and used illegal wraps on Mosley if it wasn't for Nazeem having a quick eye and spotting it.

Guys need to be much more vigilant in protecting themselves. If you have suspicions about an opponent, get it sorted out before the fight. Don't come out a year later and complain about it.

God knows these A.C's won't protect you.

[IamInuit]

My problem is that if he had a figurative feeling prior to the fight then he must have had a literal feeling both during and after the fight. They should have made their case at that very moment like when Collins Sr. shook Restos hands after he essentially killed his son. There was ample opportunity to lodge a protest and demand to have the gloves weighed and guts checked. In addition they could have checked the gloves again while they witnessed the hands being wrapped.

I agree, and it's a sad fact but it's a reality that in boxing you really have to be proactive in protecting yourself out there. Because the majority of the athletic commisions are completely useless.

Who's to say how many people use doctored gloves and get away with it? To think, the athletic commision let Resto go out there and nearly kill Collins, and he would have gotten away with it free if it wasn't for Collins Sr shaking Resto's hand. Margarito would have gone out and used illegal wraps on Mosley if it wasn't for Nazeem having a quick eye and spotting it.

Guys need to be much more vigilant in protecting themselves. If you have suspicions about an opponent, get it sorted out before the fight. Don't come out a year later and complain about it.

God knows these A.C's won't protect you.

Exactly if you were that sure going in then you have nobody to blame but yourself and your crew. Personally if I were fighting at this level I would assume my opponent was cheating. Gloves and hand wraps would be at the top of the food chain. I'd have a guy witness the gloves being put on. It would take a set of balls today to tamper with gloves by pulling some lining out and considering the consequences that would follow. Its so much easier to just use chemistry. Having said that if there was cause for concern I'd check anyway.

You are right about the commissions some being much worse then others. Just look at the glove shaving that is allowed. Its sanctioned cheating.

[johnsebastianmiran]

Usually I don't like to post on a debate like this but nine months without a shred of proof? No one learned a thing from Naseem Richardson I believe is Shane's corner man and trainer? Do not even begin to tell anyone that you did not have a corner man in that room to examine the wrapping and the gloves that were offered to your man and that reason escapes me because all I did was watch the fight. If there was anything wrong with those gloves the way he was catching punches like his face was a catcher's mitt he would have been gone sooner and now he made some serious mistakes in another title shot? I personally know what it is like to get punched but with time I forgot how it felt on me because I promoted myself to being a fan. If what he said is true why wait. It is suspicious not to forget slanderous to say things like this because you won't blame yourself for losing a fight everyone saw you lose? Vanity is the most favorite sin of the devil according to the Pacino movie and vanity has no place in the square just winning and losing. Last but not least there was something in 3G's gloves, his fist.

[ray corso]

Number one, each fighters second should be present when the opposing fighter is being gloved along with a commision staffer. Number two I always asked te ref to feel the opposing fighters gloves prior to the bell.
During a fight water can be added to the hands to assist a plaster type mix to form and thats when your outside the ring people come into effect. When I could I would have people watching our opponents corner prepare for the rest bell and watch their actions during the rest. Other than that I can't think of what else can be done. A fighter can certainly tell if the punch "gain impact" during a fight and again the ref can inspect the glove at any time. Ray.

[IamInuit]

Number one, each fighters second should be present when the opposing fighter is being gloved along with a commision staffer. Number two I always asked te ref to feel the opposing fighters gloves prior to the bell.
During a fight water can be added to the hands to assist a plaster type mix to form and thats when your outside the ring people come into effect. When I could I would have people watching our opponents corner prepare for the rest bell and watch their actions during the rest. Other than that I can't think of what else can be done. A fighter can certainly tell if the punch "gain impact" during a fight and again the ref can inspect the glove at any time. Ray.

Of course the second should be in for the wraps and glove fitting. That's their job. If I'm a trainer at the elite level, I am taking over that responsibility. Commission staffers dont know how to properly apply a bandaid and these days are probably to busy on the iphone. The guts from Restos gloves were removed after those parties left the dressing room.

During a fight water can be added to the hands to assist a plaster type mix to form and that's when your outside the ring people come into effect.

Give me a break. This is not 1922. Nobody is loading wraps with fast drying cement powder and then pouring water into and past the glove wrist line. That's ridiculous. Based on that logic we should be refitting gloves and checking the wraps after every round.

You dont whine and snivel 9 months after a fight. You ask to check the gloves in real time just like Collins Sr did.

[outspoken]

Usually I don't like to post on a debate like this but nine months without a shred of proof? No one learned a thing from Naseem Richardson I believe is Shane's corner man and trainer? Do not even begin to tell anyone that you did not have a corner man in that room to examine the wrapping and the gloves that were offered to your man and that reason escapes me because all I did was watch the fight. If there was anything wrong with those gloves the way he was catching punches like his face was a catcher's mitt he would have been gone sooner and now he made some serious mistakes in another title shot? I personally know what it is like to get punched but with time I forgot how it felt on me because I promoted myself to being a fan. If what he said is true why wait. It is suspicious not to forget slanderous to say things like this because you won't blame yourself for losing a fight everyone saw you lose? Vanity is the most favorite sin of the devil according to the Pacino movie and vanity has no place in the square just winning and losing. Last but not least there was something in 3G's gloves, his fist.

Yup he also caught Trinidad camp tampering with handwraps back when Hopkins fight him lol xD ... thread poster is tripping

[IamInuit]

Usually I don't like to post on a debate like this but nine months without a shred of proof? No one learned a thing from Naseem Richardson I believe is Shane's corner man and trainer? Do not even begin to tell anyone that you did not have a corner man in that room to examine the wrapping and the gloves that were offered to your man and that reason escapes me because all I did was watch the fight. If there was anything wrong with those gloves the way he was catching punches like his face was a catcher's mitt he would have been gone sooner and now he made some serious mistakes in another title shot? I personally know what it is like to get punched but with time I forgot how it felt on me because I promoted myself to being a fan. If what he said is true why wait. It is suspicious not to forget slanderous to say things like this because you won't blame yourself for losing a fight everyone saw you lose? Vanity is the most favorite sin of the devil according to the Pacino movie and vanity has no place in the square just winning and losing. Last but not least there was something in 3G's gloves, his fist.

Yup he also caught Trinidad camp tampering with handwraps back when Hopkins fight him lol xD ... thread poster is tripping

Urban legend. Tito's wraps had to do with gauze direction not loading or unloading gloves.