Magomed Abdusalamov is in Self-Induced Coma

[AdamGB]

Damn, something didn't seem right... He was taking a tonne of punishment and relatively speaking it didn't seem to affect him... Not visibly anyway.

One tough battle, I'm sure he'll pull through. Sounds more precautionary.

[Beanflicker]

Boxing is the art of hitting without being hit. If you're going to fight in that style of walking forward face first and swinging, you're asking for trouble. There's nothing cool about getting punched in the head a lot. Hopefully he pulls through.

[walrus]

a medically induced coma is more than preventative. Unfortunately I have been put in one. I came out alright and I hope this gentleman does as well. Very bad situation.

[p4pking]

Yeah, it's not something they do just in case. From what I know medically induced basically means drug induced, in that it's controlled and reversible if you take away the barbiturates or whatever they use. The idea is that the brain will require less energy so areas that weren't getting enough blood flow will have a chance to heal as the swelling goes down etc.

Incredible HW fight and hope for the best possibly recovery, but this could be pretty serious as the punishment he took certainly was.

[TitoFan]

Hoping he comes out alright and given this turn of events, and for Mago and his family's sake..... it's time to look for another line of work.

[Beanflicker]

What really gets me with this kind of situation was listening to Max Kellerman and Lampley gushing about how this was how fighters should fight, how this was true skill, ect. How guys like Klitschko could learn a thing or two from guys like Magomed. It really is a bastardization of the art of boxing.

What happened last night was an entertaining BRAWL, where Magomed showed virtually no defense or head movement of any kind. A guy who decided to take punches just because he can. That's how guys end up with dementia in their early 40s, or even worse getting killed or seriously hurt in the ring.

I hope Magomed pulls through but goddamn. You can't have it both ways. You can't expect a guy to shuffle forward face first and eat flush punches to the head all night, then get sad when he gets hurt in the ring or ends up punch drunk.

[TitoFan]

What really gets me with this kind of situation was listening to Max Kellerman and Lampley gushing about how this was how fighters should fight, how this was true skill, ect. How guys like Klitschko could learn a thing or two from guys like Magomed. It really is a bastardization of the art of boxing.

What happened last night was an entertaining BRAWL, where Magomed showed virtually no defense or head movement of any kind. A guy who decided to take punches just because he can. That's how guys end up with dementia in their early 40s, or even worse getting killed or seriously hurt in the ring.

I hope Magomed pulls through but goddamn. You can't have it both ways. You can't expect a guy to shuffle forward face first and eat flush punches to the head all night, then get sad when he gets hurt in the ring or ends up punch drunk.

You make a good point, Bean. But it's also a fine line to walk. How many classic wars have we seen down the lines of a Gatti-Ward, Corrales-Castillo..... where defense has been minimal, and the number of head punches absorbed boggle the mind? And as boxing fans we love these wars. Mago may wade in face-first, but he's hardly the only fighter to do that, and not all of them end up in a coma. As for Klitschko "learning a thing or two", can't really blame the commentators for going down that road, especially in light of the horrific stinker Wlad and Povetkin put us through recently.

[Beanflicker]

Mago may wade in face-first, but he's hardly the only fighter to do that, and not all of them end up in a coma.

For sure, luckily serious boxing injuries and deaths aren't regular occurances. But unfortunately it's getting harder to find guys who aren't punchy after their careers. Especially now with what they've learned about concussions in recent years, and the dangers of the subconcussive blows.

Of course I love the war, but when I see guys like Magomed marching foward with no defense or head movement (fuck, even Gatti could box and move his head when he wanted to), it's a little scary. Especially when you have so called expert commentators telling people "see, this is how you're supposed to fight". That kind of fighting will lead to many nights in the hospital and probably a horrible quality of life post-career.

As far as Klitschko goes, I'll never fault him for boxing safely for this reason. I do fault him with the excessive holding and fouls he pulled in his last farce though.

[Spicoli]

What really gets me with this kind of situation was listening to Max Kellerman and Lampley gushing about how this was how fighters should fight, how this was true skill, ect. How guys like Klitschko could learn a thing or two from guys like Magomed. It really is a bastardization of the art of boxing.

What happened last night was an entertaining BRAWL, where Magomed showed virtually no defense or head movement of any kind. A guy who decided to take punches just because he can. That's how guys end up with dementia in their early 40s, or even worse getting killed or seriously hurt in the ring.

I hope Magomed pulls through but goddamn. You can't have it both ways. You can't expect a guy to shuffle forward face first and eat flush punches to the head all night, then get sad when he gets hurt in the ring or ends up punch drunk.

Don't forget we're talking about the same network that treats Rigondeaux as if he has a disease. They are coming at it strictly from a chest thumping network pov and are doing the utmost to dumb down the sport. Still. Fans are smarter than that, and honestly we all at one time or another celebrate the violence but we ourselves will never be asked to pay the price. I don't fault a Mago for using what he has and whats worked before and I can't expect him to be something he's not, styles make the fights as they say.

[bigstinkybug]

LOL... self induced coma?...more like "medically induced", this happens when swelling to the brain is substancial and pressure becomes too high cutting off circulation to the brain... comas induced along with burr holes to relieve pressure... intercranial edema subsides, then fighter may be brought out...u vcan bet he'll have some kinda deficits... rehab will be needed.

[El Kabong]

What really gets me with this kind of situation was listening to Max Kellerman and Lampley gushing about how this was how fighters should fight, how this was true skill, ect. How guys like Klitschko could learn a thing or two from guys like Magomed.

Yup, and we get the "Why doesn't Wlad fight like that?" bitching and complaining....well there's your answer right there. NEVER has a fighter been hurt by a punch that DIDN'T make contact with his head. Willie Pep fought over 240 fights and lived to the ripe old age of 84 specifically because he didn't get hit all that often.

I hope Magomed pulls through alright.

Yes it's possible to have entertaining fights where no irreparable damage is done, but there's a correlation between the amount of damage you take and how long your career will last. The more damage you take the shorter you'll be around.

[Kirkland Laing]

Top quality discussion in this thread. Nothing to add apart from thoughts and prayers with Abdusalamov.

[ykdadamaja]

I don't ever remember Perez having that kind of power!?!? When injuries like that happen against guys you know have the capacity to take it, my mind always runs on Panama Lewis and the whole Resto/Collins incident.

[#1FightFan]

this man is a warrior born, and a credit to heavyweight boxing today!!!! such fire and determination. He is ten times the warrior a lame MF'ing heavyweight like Wlad Klit is~!!!! I pray that he will be ok. this truly sucks!!!

[El Kabong]

He is ten times the warrior a lame MF'ing heavyweight like Wlad Klit is~!!!!

Yeah and what did being a warrior get him? The admiration of a few fans and a serious head injury which will more than likely end his career.