Magomed Abdusalamov is in Self-Induced Coma

[Beanflicker]

Mago may wade in face-first, but he's hardly the only fighter to do that, and not all of them end up in a coma.

For sure, luckily serious boxing injuries and deaths aren't regular occurances. But unfortunately it's getting harder to find guys who aren't punchy after their careers. Especially now with what they've learned about concussions in recent years, and the dangers of the subconcussive blows.

Of course I love the war, but when I see guys like Magomed marching foward with no defense or head movement (fuck, even Gatti could box and move his head when he wanted to), it's a little scary. Especially when you have so called expert commentators telling people "see, this is how you're supposed to fight". That kind of fighting will lead to many nights in the hospital and probably a horrible quality of life post-career.

As far as Klitschko goes, I'll never fault him for boxing safely for this reason. I do fault him with the excessive holding and fouls he pulled in his last farce though.

[TitoFan]

Mago may wade in face-first, but he's hardly the only fighter to do that, and not all of them end up in a coma.

For sure, luckily serious boxing injuries and deaths aren't regular occurances. But unfortunately it's getting harder to find guys who aren't punchy after their careers. Especially now with what they've learned about concussions in recent years, and the dangers of the subconcussive blows.

Of course I love the war, but when I see guys like Magomed marching foward with no defense or head movement (fuck, even Gatti could box and move his head when he wanted to), it's a little scary. Especially when you have so called expert commentators telling people "see, this is how you're supposed to fight". That kind of fighting will lead to many nights in the hospital and probably a horrible quality of life post-career.

As far as Klitschko goes, I'll never fault him for boxing safely for this reason. I do fault him with the excessive holding and fouls he pulled in his last farce though.

I get you bro.

But Klitschko to me is the epitome of why so many fans have been turned off by boxing. It's ok to box and try to "hit and not get hit." But Klitschko truly fights as if he's scared of getting tagged on that chin. So he clutches, pushes off with his mega-long arms, tangles up the opponent, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. Luckily for him, most of his recent opponents are even more scared shitless than him, making for comical, boring fights.

IMO, Klitschko could very easily be more "offense-minded" without giving up his boxing skills and advantages. But to hell with the fans. Klitschko would rather stink up the ring by clutching and mauling than trying to be more fan-friendly.

Somewhere between Wlad and Mago, there's lots of middle ground which we as fans would love to see in the HW division.

[Beanflicker]

I get you bro.

But Klitschko to me is the epitome of why so many fans have been turned off by boxing. It's ok to box and try to "hit and not get hit." But Klitschko truly fights as if he's scared of getting tagged on that chin. So he clutches, pushes off with his mega-long arms, tangles up the opponent, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. Luckily for him, most of his recent opponents are even more scared shitless than him, making for comical, boring fights.

IMO, Klitschko could very easily be more "offense-minded" without giving up his boxing skills and advantages. But to hell with the fans. Klitschko would rather stink up the ring by clutching and mauling than trying to be more fan-friendly.

Somewhere between Wlad and Mago, there's lots of middle ground which we as fans would love to see in the HW division.

With the Klitschkos, I really admire them as tacticians because they box beautifully. But I'm not so much a fan of the excessive holding and other fouls. But to be fair, we have to concede that they don't do anything that guys like Muhammad Ali didn't do himself.

[IamInuit]

Mago may wade in face-first, but he's hardly the only fighter to do that, and not all of them end up in a coma.

For sure, luckily serious boxing injuries and deaths aren't regular occurances. But unfortunately it's getting harder to find guys who aren't punchy after their careers. Especially now with what they've learned about concussions in recent years, and the dangers of the subconcussive blows.

Of course I love the war, but when I see guys like Magomed marching foward with no defense or head movement (fuck, even Gatti could box and move his head when he wanted to), it's a little scary. Especially when you have so called expert commentators telling people "see, this is how you're supposed to fight". That kind of fighting will lead to many nights in the hospital and probably a horrible quality of life post-career.

As far as Klitschko goes, I'll never fault him for boxing safely for this reason. I do fault him with the excessive holding and fouls he pulled in his last farce though.

Odd eh.Less rds plus less activity equals more injury. Given equal math comparisons, I'd bet more deaths have happened post 15 rd title fights. Now this fight notwithstanding as 99% of corners would have stopped it much earlier. Greb fought 49 times in a year. That's like 4 times a month. Boxers today are almost part time. At the top level they almost make as much with endorsements (local or otherwise) as they do fighting.

All kinds of fighters have faced no pun intended much worse the he did. Some made a career out of it. Its a throw of the dice in this business.

[Beanflicker]

Greb fought 49 times in a year. That's like 4 times a month. Boxers today are almost part time.

That's true, but that being said how many of those fights were against absolute pushovers who didn't really have the skill to touch him? There's no way he fought 49 world beaters a year. A lot of those were stay busy type fights I'd say, little more than sparring.

I love to see a war, boxing is a brutal game and guys are gonna end up getting fucked up no matter what you do. I love Ali/Frazier because it was two elite guys forced into a war.

With Magomed, he was in a war because he was unskilled. It's like asking Nascar drivers to drive drunk to make it more entertaining. I think being in a war for the sake of being in a war is retarded. If it's genuine where it's the strategy like a Hearns/Hagler, I love it.