Froch - Groves to meet on Sky Ringside special

[erics44]

People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.

Youv got a good point.

I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?

The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.

As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.

smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive

i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch

[ross]

People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.

Youv got a good point.

I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?

The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.

As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.

smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive

i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch

He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.

Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!

If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.

Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!

[erics44]

People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.

Youv got a good point.

I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?

The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.

As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.

smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive

i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch

He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.

Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!

If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.

Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!

i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken

groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches, i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch

[AdamGB]

You people will buy into anything, won't you?!

[AdamGB]

Not quite as bad as the Haye-Audley build up... But still!

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People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.

Youv got a good point.

I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?

The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.

As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.

smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive

i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch

He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.

Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!

If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.

Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!

i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken

groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches, i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch

I should hope so.

Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.

Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.

[erics44]

People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.

Youv got a good point.

I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?

The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.

As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.

smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive

i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch

He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.

Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!

If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.

Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!

i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken

groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches, i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch

I should hope so.

Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.

Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.

so whats your point?

[Dark Lord Al]

I think the fact most think Froch wins easy , it shows real bottle by groves for taking this fight.
I am not bothered who wins , just hope its a good scrap.

[ross]

People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.

Youv got a good point.

I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?

The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.

As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.

smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive

i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch

He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.

Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!

If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.

Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!

i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken

groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches, i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch

I should hope so.

Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.

Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.

so whats your point?

How can a win over someone on a run of 3 consecutive losses be considered more impressive than a win over him when he was coming off one of his best recent performances and run of performances.

My obvious point being, in no way at all was Groves win over Johnson any more impressive than Frochs.

[erics44]

People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.

Youv got a good point.

I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?

The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.

As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.

smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive

i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch

He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.

Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!

If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.

Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!

i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken

groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches, i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch

I should hope so.

Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.

Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.

so whats your point?

How can a win over someone on a run of 3 consecutive losses be considered more impressive than a win over him when he was coming off one of his best recent performances and run of performances.

My obvious point being, in no way at all was Groves win over Johnson any more impressive than Frochs.

course it was, he battered him every round

[Rantcatrat]

This could turn out to being a very interesting fight. Groves has the ability to use his legs and move away from Froch's vaunted power, but so did Bute, and we saw how that went. Remember that Groves allegedly gave Andre Dirrell the business in sparring and beat DeGale. I doubt Groves will be intimidated. I also doubt Froch will be intimidated, which is why it's somewhat intriguing.

[Morgan-B-Howell]

Do you know what.. we're all talking Groves up. He hash't proved anything so far but the ability to shade Degale in a fight. Could be simple.. just an easy defence for Froch, couldn't it?

[erics44]

Do you know what.. we're all talking Groves up. He hash't proved anything so far but the ability to shade Degale in a fight. Could be simple.. just an easy defence for Froch, couldn't it?

this is what everyone is saying likes

could be exactly what means it isnt

[Tam Seddon]

Do you know what.. we're all talking Groves up. He hash't proved anything so far but the ability to shade Degale in a fight. Could be simple.. just an easy defence for Froch, couldn't it?

It will be an easy defence , Groves isn't elite, I could name a lot of fighters who were better than Groves and Froch beat them.

[ross]

Think Froch has either taken a few shots too many or he is just plain shit at maths.

In this article he seems to think Groves will be his 14th world title fight

Carl Froch: I Will Knock Glass Jaw Groves Unconscious! - Boxing News