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    Default Re: Prime Riddick Bowe v Vitali Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    To the brocktonblockbuster;

    That is quite a remarkable claim considering Vitali has faced an array of punchers throughout his career and taken numerous big shots here and there and yet has never been KO'd in pro boxing ever and never even been knocked down... Ever!
    excellent points indeed. But few could withstand a flush overhand right from Big Daddy.

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    Default Re: Prime Riddick Bowe v Vitali Klitschko

    I am not one of these guys who is going to claim that Vitali Klitschko has a chin of iron. I think Vitali has very good chin but he did avoid most clean shots his whole career and has been checked by the good ones he did cop. So I think die hard Klitschko fans overrate Vitali's chin.

    Vitali did have better chin than Golota though who was dropped immediately by Lewis but not by Bowe. Vitali took flush shots from Lewis and Sanders though and was not dropped.

    Bowe's power is great obviously but is also a bit overrated. His power was mainly showcased against over matched and/or undersized opponents.

    Of the 4 tall superheavyweight technicians of most repute, Wladimir and Lennox are the 2 which have the truly thumping power punches. Vitali and 92 Bowe hit very hard too but are more accumulation hitters and lack the same snap as the other 2.

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    Default Re: Prime Riddick Bowe v Vitali Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I am not one of these guys who is going to claim that Vitali Klitschko has a chin of iron. I think Vitali has very good chin but he did avoid most clean shots his whole career and has been checked by the good ones he did cop. So I think die hard Klitschko fans overrate Vitali's chin.

    Vitali did have better chin than Golota though who was dropped immediately by Lewis but not by Bowe. Vitali took flush shots from Lewis and Sanders though and was not dropped.

    Bowe's power is great obviously but is also a bit overrated. His power was mainly showcased against over matched and/or undersized opponents.

    Of the 4 tall superheavyweight technicians of most repute, Wladimir and Lennox are the 2 which have the truly thumping power punches. Vitali and 92 Bowe hit very hard too but are more accumulation hitters and lack the same snap as the other 2.
    I agree about Lewis, but not sure about Wlad IMO.

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    Default Re: Prime Riddick Bowe v Vitali Klitschko

    Come on man, Wlad has to be among the hardest punchers of all time, surely that can't be denied. The biggest problem with Wlad is his ability to take a punch. He's a bit like Tommy Morrison in that regard. They can dish out much greater than they can take.

    That was the secret of big George's success. A very limited boxer in terms of skill. He would have been useless and easily beaten were he relying on power alone because he was easy to hit, unlike Wlad. But George could bash brains in AND take huge punishment. Wlad instead has to rely on defensive measures (which unfortunately include the much hated huggy bear routine!)

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    Default Re: Prime Riddick Bowe v Vitali Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Come on man, Wlad has to be among the hardest punchers of all time, surely that can't be denied. The biggest problem with Wlad is his ability to take a punch. He's a bit like Tommy Morrison in that regard. They can dish out much greater than they can take.

    That was the secret of big George's success. A very limited boxer in terms of skill. He would have been useless and easily beaten were he relying on power alone because he was easy to hit, unlike Wlad. But George could bash brains in AND take huge punishment. Wlad instead has to rely on defensive measures (which unfortunately include the much hated huggy bear routine!)
    hardest punchers of all time in no particular order:

    Rocky Marciano
    George Foreman
    Ron Lyle
    Earnie Shavers
    Razor Ruddock
    Mike Tyson
    Lennox Lewis
    Joe Frazier
    Sonny LIston

    sorry but wlad aint in there

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    Default Re: Prime Riddick Bowe v Vitali Klitschko

    hardest punchers of all time in no particular order:

    Rocky Marciano
    George Foreman
    Ron Lyle
    Earnie Shavers
    Razor Ruddock
    Mike Tyson
    Lennox Lewis
    Joe Frazier
    Sonny LIston

    sorry but wlad aint in there
    You must be joking. Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, sure thing!

    Ruddock also hits very hard and may or may not rate with them.

    Lyle and Shavers and Liston hit hard too but nowhere near as hard as the others, there power is gauged against what are today cruiserweights. When you check the performance against real HW's they are nothing special.

    Joe Frazier is a featherfist. He would pose absolutely no punch threat today or throughout the 90's and 00's whatsoever and Rocky Marciano weighed 185lbs. There is not a modern HW who he could outpunch!

    Wladimir is probably the hardest puncher of all time.

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    Default Re: Prime Riddick Bowe v Vitali Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    hardest punchers of all time in no particular order:

    Rocky Marciano
    George Foreman
    Ron Lyle
    Earnie Shavers
    Razor Ruddock
    Mike Tyson
    Lennox Lewis
    Joe Frazier
    Sonny LIston

    sorry but wlad aint in there
    You must be joking. Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, sure thing!

    Ruddock also hits very hard and may or may not rate with them.

    Lyle and Shavers and Liston hit hard too but nowhere near as hard as the others, there power is gauged against what are today cruiserweights. When you check the performance against real HW's they are nothing special.

    Joe Frazier is a featherfist. He would pose absolutely no punch threat today or throughout the 90's and 00's whatsoever and Rocky Marciano weighed 185lbs. There is not a modern HW who he could outpunch!

    Wladimir is probably the hardest puncher of all time.
    hmmm...not so sure you know your boxing history. i think you might just be making stuff up.

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