Remember Occupy Wall Street

[El Kabong]

The best example is the Guy Fawkes mask: people use this to protest against big corporations and the wealthy... but they don't even know that Time Warner owns the rights to the masks and is paid with each sale!

Guy Fawkes was also a PAPIST! He wanted to blow up Parliament and get England back in the good graces of the Catholic Church.....which makes the use of his mask at Occupy or anything 'Anonymous?' does the HIGHEST PEAK of buffoonery!


I went to high school with the guys running the OWS movement in my home town, and although they have a tremendous amount of book smarts, (one graduated from Harvard) they have 0 common sense and are idealistic as hell. In the real world, the world outside of academia, they are UNEMPLOYABLE to say the very least. If you asked them to make a copy, you know something simple like that, on any given day they could just say "Why don't YOU make that copy?" or "We shouldn't make that copy because it encourages deforestation" or something that audacious and that stupid. They are an impediment to work, they are lazy, they are selfish....shouldn't a guy who graduated from Harvard be out curing cancer or writing books or practicing law or doing ANYTHING of importance? But nah, he just sat around camping for a few weeks the lazy bastard.

There were a ton of the OWS protesters who were just worthless but there were some with potential and THOSE anger me most. You have all that potential and you want to let it rot on the vine simply because you don't like the system.....soooo selfish

[Kirkland Laing]

[VictorCharlie]

Kirk do you think the pilot's union is the overwhelming representative population of the OWS movement? Seems like you are trying to portray them as the face of the national OWS movement.

[El Kabong]

Kirk do you think the pilot's union is the overwhelming representative population of the OWS movement? Seems like you are trying to portray them as the face of the national OWS movement.

Those poor pilots VC



Here you go Kirkland, here's some Occupiers they speak in vague platitudes and look like bums.




Meanwhile Peter Schiff actually looks like he could hold a job and speaks clearly and MAKES SPECIFIC POINTS!

[Andre]

Kirk do you think the pilot's union is the overwhelming representative population of the OWS movement? Seems like you are trying to portray them as the face of the national OWS movement.

Those poor pilots VC



Here you go Kirkland, here's some Occupiers they speak in vague platitudes and look like bums.




Meanwhile Peter Schiff actually looks like he could hold a job and speaks clearly and MAKES SPECIFIC POINTS!

Thanks , Ive watched the first one right through:although not the best at articulation the first two people got their points across, specially the second guy, third guy shouldnt of been interviewed he was led by the questions and got lost, if he knew anything at all.

I dont think anyone knowing the weather sees them as 'dressed as bums',common sense tell us it was cold it was night,they were out in it for a few days, so they dressed to suit , the first guy was sniffing maybe the start of a cold or maybe he was on crack!


The second interviewer on the next video was great he knows what gives, he was simply pointing out Capitalism isnt their problem at all, The Goverment are their problem and by the 10 minute mark, he even agrees fully that Wall street is with the Government.

Ill get back to watching it from there.

These were great videos to put up, you should watch the content for yourself.
Im only ten minutes into the second one its very interesting the interviewer is separating himself and other big businesses from Bankers and politicians and rightly so.


I have a question that brought up: Do business owners really pay 55% tax in the States?

In Australia we pay 33% because that is company tax (if you have formed one) then you can divide the net income up amounts others who are subsidiaries to your company and then use all the perks however many times over for the amount of relatives or partners you have on board. Including investment properties super, health insurance,you name it even entertainment of 20 plus in a restaurant etc once or twice a year.

(Isnt it the same there)?

[VictorCharlie]

The rate is somewhat irrelevant to what is paid. Sure the US has one of the highest corporate tax rates but the code is so convoluted and thick that there are as many loopholes, credits, deductions etc as rules that a massive business like GE could pay nothing in corporate taxes. The real lobby there is the accountants and lawyers. If you dropped the rate to say 15% of net profits excluding the top percentiles' compensation of each corporation the real loser is the gigantic accounting firms that bill millions to save the businesses billions.

[Andre]

I was wondering if Peter schiff was being honest saying he employs a hundred people and pays 50% in tax?

If you are a sole trader out here and earn over a certain sum,I forget, maybe its 150,000 personal, you can pay those amounts 50% but you'd be crazy to ignore the advantages available and actually do so.

[El Kabong]

Thanks , Ive watched the first one right through:although not the best at articulation the first two people got their points across, specially the second guy, third guy shouldnt of been interviewed he was led by the questions and got lost, if he knew anything at all.

I dont think anyone knowing the weather sees them as 'dressed as bums',common sense tell us it was cold it was night,they were out in it for a few days, so they dressed to suit , the first guy was sniffing maybe the start of a cold or maybe he was on crack!

Got their points across What points? Everything they said was either trite or purposely vague which is what lead nonOWS people to realize "Those people don't have a damn clue why they are there or what they are doing, it's just a party to them"

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirk do you think the pilot's union is the overwhelming representative population of the OWS movement? Seems like you are trying to portray them as the face of the national OWS movement.

No. What I'm saying is that there are vast numbers of people out there -- 99% of the country in fact -- who have far more in common with Occupy than they do with the people running the country. Increasingly over the next decade or three an Occupy-like movement will attract broad national support and it'll be impossible to pigeonhole them as a bunch of trustafarians or workshy people or whatever.

[El Kabong]

No. What I'm saying is that there are vast numbers of people out there -- 99% of the country in fact -- who have far more in common with Occupy than they do with the people running the country. Increasingly over the next decade or three an Occupy-like movement will attract broad national support and it'll be impossible to pigeonhole them as a bunch of trustafarians or workshy people or whatever.

Kirkland, 99% was a catchphrase, a slogan. I'm not in the 1%, not close, BUT I'd like to work to get closer to where they are rather than hang out on Wall Street camping with a bunch of smelly hippies bitching and moaning and waiting for someone to just come along and ask nicely that all the rich people ante up and spread their wealth around. NO, I have very little in common with the OWS fools.

[Kirkland Laing]

No. What I'm saying is that there are vast numbers of people out there -- 99% of the country in fact -- who have far more in common with Occupy than they do with the people running the country. Increasingly over the next decade or three an Occupy-like movement will attract broad national support and it'll be impossible to pigeonhole them as a bunch of trustafarians or workshy people or whatever.

Kirkland, 99% was a catchphrase, a slogan. I'm not in the 1%, not close, BUT I'd like to work to get closer to where they are rather than hang out on Wall Street camping with a bunch of smelly hippies bitching and moaning and waiting for someone to just come along and ask nicely that all the rich people ante up and spread their wealth around. NO, I have very little in common with the OWS fools.

You're fooling nobody. You spend all day every day on the internet. You're a neo-Confederate manchild ranting away in his mother's basement.

[El Kabong]

You're fooling nobody. You spend all day every day on the internet. You're a neo-Confederate manchild ranting away in his mother's basement.

Don't get your feelings hurt pumpkin.

I'm online because I can afford to be, it's one of the perks of my job. I don't beg for the government to take from others so that I might be better off which is 100% of what OWS was about. Take from the rich and redistribute. If we actually did that and made that policy then why work at all? If someone is just going to turn around and give you a hand out for complaining. And don't act like that wasn't what they were doing, that's EXACTLY what they were doing.

[VictorCharlie]

Got it...so not really relevant to the discussion. Thanks.

[El Kabong]

As for the OWS assholes....






The lazy bums get NOTHING, they LOSE


The bums will always lose Kirkland.....the bums will always lose

[Kirkland Laing]

As for the OWS assholes....






The lazy bums get NOTHING, they LOSE


The bums will always lose Kirkland.....the bums will always lose

99% of Americans aren't bums but they are losing.