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    Default Re: Do you believe in God?

    Why would the whole of what is everything, choose to descend down through the dimensions to compress itself into physical matter in search of its self, like we have?
    Most of whats out there and in here is dark matter but we cant see that or measure it either but we know it is mostly everything.

    The Ancient mediators, practitioners, craftsmen,men of God knew that.

    Darkness within darkness the gateway to all mystery.
    Written by Lao Tszu.

    'As above so below'. Written by Thoth; who had knowledge the stars and planets worked the same as electrons and molecules.

    Thousands of years later once man decided to think things out and lose his intuition to that mindset, he then was in the process of re learning, instead of knowing knowledge from the heart which also has a now time memory and a dna memory. Mankind eventually and not so long ago was at the stage of believing the world flat and the center of the Universe due to the change. We had to go along way backwards before we advanced again up our chosen route.
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    I can explain it.
    But I cant understand it for you.

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    Default Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    'As above so below'.
    I personally prefer more "like Father like Son"
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    Sun / Son.

    We are all made of the electrons that formed matter that were once a Sun.
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    I can explain it.
    But I cant understand it for you.

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    I'm agnostic. I acknowledge that our universe is very complex and we probably aren't equipt with the brain power to comprehend these complicated issues. While I think all our religions are infantile and silly, there's no way I would discount the existence of a creator. I just don't have the confidence in our knowledge to do that. Nobody should.

    I find Christianity to be offensively stupid and VAIN. Some magic man in the sky, who created all of us in his own image, is sitting up there helping people who pray to get the job they applied for or for some millionaire to win a baseball game. Shut the fuck up.

    If people want to believe in fairy tales to make them feel at peace with the fact that you and everyone you love is going to die one day, go ahead. But there's no way to intellectualize it. It's absolute idiocy. It's "I'm gonna believe this because it sounds good and it's what I want to happen".

    Truth be told, I'd love to believe in god and believe that we're all going to go to paradise and live with all our friends and relatives. I'd also love to believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. I'd love to believe that tomorrow I'm going to meet Jessica Alba and she's going to fly me out to her mansion in Hollywood and fuck my brains out every night.

    The scenario of me fuckign Jessica Alba is more of a possibility than any of these rediculous religions being correct.

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    I don't believe in god
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    I don't believe in god
    I don't either. One personality created the universe and gives a shit what we do and say on this little crumb of a planet in a massive universe? It just seems too convenient. And too suspiciously like the idea thought up by someone with daddy issues. Which is not to say I wouldn't believe in a god (or gods) if you showed me sufficient evidence. But nobody's ever put forth convincing proof. It's usually New Agey babble when they try.

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    one thing is known, we will all find out eventually. The ride on this shit hole does not last forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    one thing is known, we will all find out eventually.
    Hardly a given. When death comes, it could also be that we just cease finding out about anything. Rather than coming to a realization, we may stop realizing.

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    I believe in spiritual parents. God being the father and Nature the mother. I believe in faith and luck, positioning and relocating, i believe in life of my surroundings and everything working in gear determining scenarios. Most importantly, I believe in myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Why would the whole of what is everything, choose to descend down through the dimensions to compress itself into physical matter in search of its self, like we have?
    Most of whats out there and in here is dark matter but we cant see that or measure it either but we know it is mostly everything.

    The Ancient mediators, practitioners, craftsmen,men of God knew that.

    Darkness within darkness the gateway to all mystery.
    Written by Lao Tszu.

    'As above so below'. Written by Thoth; who had knowledge the stars and planets worked the same as electrons and molecules.

    Thousands of years later once man decided to think things out and lose his intuition to that mindset, he then was in the process of re learning, instead of knowing knowledge from the heart which also has a now time memory and a dna memory. Mankind eventually and not so long ago was at the stage of believing the world flat and the center of the Universe due to the change. We had to go along way backwards before we advanced again up our chosen route.
    Because such a thing does not exist. There has been no overseer of what has over millenia become the modern human. The human form evolved primitive and naked just as millions of other species evolved here on earth and long, long after the solar system and planets themselves were formed. It had nothing to do with a spirituality or a divine maker. There is zero evidence for such a point of view.

    Cosmology and physics explains the planets and the stars, evolution explains life on earth, spirituality doesn't really mean anything. Sure, some cultures believed in the divine, but to them it must have seemed divine as they had no rational explanation. Spirituality fades as science begins to explain.

    Atheisism has only in recent decades begun to be tolerated by mainstream society. In some ways we are progressing spiritually as we are denying hocus pocus talk of Gods and creators. Humanity has the potential to evolve in terms of attitues. My only concern is that there are still too many religious fundamentalists and that they are dangerous and largely control much of the worlds resources and wealth.

    These people are beyond any form of rationality. You don't need spirituality if you have a basic sense of common sense and right and wrong. Spirituality is a dose of fairy dust on top and it isn't necessary. Once dark matter is explained, science will move onto its next problem and on it goes. I am 99.9999% certain that none of it will be answered how religion or spirituality would like it to be answered as they don't know and get proven wrong at every turn. The odds are that this will continue and that science, as usual, will offer rational explanations of what exists around us.

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    Default Re: Do you believe in God?

    I believe in many and some I have never even heard of from people who have never actually met them I think to say there is only one god strictly is as misguided and shallow as saying there is no one at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I believe in many and some I have never even heard of from people who have never actually met them I think to say there is only one god strictly is as misguided and shallow as saying there is no one at all.
    Why is it misguided or shallow? Saying one only likes hot chicks is shallow, arguing that God doesn't exist is merely following all the available evidence. How is that misguided or shallow? Only someone who believes in something inherently illogical could suggest such a thing.

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    More importantly wtf is shallow about only liking hot chicks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I believe in many and some I have never even heard of from people who have never actually met them I think to say there is only one god strictly is as misguided and shallow as saying there is no one at all.
    Why is it misguided or shallow? Saying one only likes hot chicks is shallow, arguing that God doesn't exist is merely following all the available evidence. How is that misguided or shallow? Only someone who believes in something inherently illogical could suggest such a thing.

    But you are arguing that the religious God does not exist or one that models him/it/herself after us. The one in religious text. That is fine but it does not logically follow that therefore there is nothing. Even Einstein said that some day Physics would discover God. So in that sense to dismiss all possibilities is shallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I believe in many and some I have never even heard of from people who have never actually met them I think to say there is only one god strictly is as misguided and shallow as saying there is no one at all.
    Why is it misguided or shallow? Saying one only likes hot chicks is shallow, arguing that God doesn't exist is merely following all the available evidence. How is that misguided or shallow? Only someone who believes in something inherently illogical could suggest such a thing.

    But you are arguing that the religious God does not exist or one that models him/it/herself after us. The one in religious text. That is fine but it does not logically follow that therefore there is nothing. Even Einstein said that some day Physics would discover God. So in that sense to dismiss all possibilities is shallow.
    But you struggle to comprehend basic English. What I actually said was that the chance of God existing, certainly in the way defined over the past 2000 years, is likely 99.9% gibberish. Now I don't disagree that science will tell us more, but it has nothing to do with God as defined by religious man.

    Dismissing God based upon evidence is not shallow as there is zero evidence to support the claims that an all governing God with the power to starve, kill, and condemn exists. Now that doesn't mean that it is 100% no chance of existence, but to rely on 0.1% or less is in itself pretty shallow.

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