Requirements for a fight with Andre Ward

[jehoshaphat]

Lets keep it factual bro. Ward never demanded to fight any light heavyweights let alone for them to come to 168. Dawson called Ward out and also said he would come to 168 to fight him. Dawson asked for that and got what he wanted. In the Kessler fight there were some bad headbutts but Ward blew Kessler out. That fight would have to take a 180 in every round. I'm sure you want this thread to be a "pour it on Ward" type of thread. But instead of just going back and forth I was just asking you what you wanted. I agree Ward should take on additional PED testing. Who do you want Ward to fight and under what conditions?

[Freedom]

Who do you want Ward to fight and under what conditions?

He should fight Golovkin at 160 (after all, Dawson had to move down, and he said he'd fight Mayweather at 160), fight Froch at 168 in the UK (since Ward had all his Super Six fights in his home country and all but one in California), or fight Adonis Stevenson in Montreal at 175 (Adonis is the Ring champion at 175).

But he won't. He'll want Golovkin to move up to 168, and Stevenson to move down to 168. Either fight would need to be in California.

Conditions should be 1) a neutral referee (not a California Boxing Commission ref like Jack Reiss) for a change 2) random PED testing. But Ward would never fight with a Canadian, UK or mainland European ref, and he'll never agree to random PED testing.

I'll never respect Ward until he agrees to neutral referees and PED testing - why should anyone respect someone who cheats with head butts and steroids?

[jehoshaphat]

Who do you want Ward to fight and under what conditions?

He should fight Golovkin at 160 (after all, Dawson had to move down, and he said he'd fight Mayweather at 160), fight Froch at 168 in the UK (since Ward had all his Super Six fights in his home country and all but one in California), or fight Adonis Stevenson in Montreal at 175 (Adonis is the Ring champion at 175).

But he won't. He'll want Golovkin to move up to 168, and Stevenson to move down to 168. Either fight would need to be in California.

Conditions should be 1) a neutral referee (not a California Boxing Commission ref like Jack Reiss) for a change 2) random PED testing. But Ward would never fight with a Canadian, UK or mainland European ref, and he'll never agree to random PED testing.

I'll never respect Ward until he agrees to neutral referees and PED testing - why should anyone respect someone who cheats with head butts and steroids?

I thought you were going to be sensible so I was going to keep this dialogue going but you showed your cards. Do you have proof Ward is on steroids? If not, your agenda is clear and I can no longer take your posts about Ward serious.

[Violent Demise]

Who do you want Ward to fight and under what conditions?

He should fight Golovkin at 160 (after all, Dawson had to move down, and he said he'd fight Mayweather at 160), fight Froch at 168 in the UK (since Ward had all his Super Six fights in his home country and all but one in California), or fight Adonis Stevenson in Montreal at 175 (Adonis is the Ring champion at 175).

But he won't. He'll want Golovkin to move up to 168, and Stevenson to move down to 168. Either fight would need to be in California.

Conditions should be 1) a neutral referee (not a California Boxing Commission ref like Jack Reiss) for a change 2) random PED testing. But Ward would never fight with a Canadian, UK or mainland European ref, and he'll never agree to random PED testing.

I'll never respect Ward until he agrees to neutral referees and PED testing - why should anyone respect someone who cheats with head butts and steroids?

Ward last fought at 160 back in 2006. It's moronic for him to try. I'm sure he'll sell out and try and do it for the 10 million plus he would get for fighting Mayweather. But Golovkin ain't Mayweather. He don't bring the payday Floyd does. Not only that Ward knows Mayweather calls the shots in a fight between them. Against Golovkin, Ward would be the one calling the shots. Fighting him at 160 wouldn't even be an option

He already dominated Froch once already. What would be the point of fighting him again? It would be an even more lopsided fight

Steve Smoger is a east coast referee. Luis Pabon is a Puerto Rican referee. Those were the referees for Ward last 3 fights (Smoger twice). So I don't know where this he needs a California ref to fight nonsense comes from

[imp]

I like ward.
But if its true that hes avoiding ped testing then thats not a good look.
Both he and his opponent gets tested for drugs, why shouldnt he agree to that. Must be more to this.

[VG_Addict]

Freedom has such a blatant double standard, it's ridiculous. Ward's headbutting isn't NEARLY as bad as Wlad clinching, elbowing, and throwing Povetkin to the ground.

[Freedom]

Jack Reiss from Valencia, California will be the third man in the ring on Saturday in Ontario, California for Andre Ward vs. Edwin Rodríguez (24-0, 16 KOs).

The three judges are Max Deluca from Tustin, California; Jerry Cantu from Westminster, California; and Steve Morrow, from Hollister, California.

Prediction: lots of deliberate fouling by Andre Ward which will be permitted by the shady Jack Reiss, the same ref who worked the Kessler-Ward fight.

[Violent Demise]

Jack Reiss from Valencia, California will be the third man in the ring on Saturday in Ontario, California for Andre Ward vs. Edwin Rodríguez (24-0, 16 KOs).

The three judges are Max Deluca from Tustin, California; Jerry Cantu from Westminster, California; and Steve Morrow, from Hollister, California.

Prediction: lots of deliberate fouling by Andre Ward which will be permitted by the shady Jack Reiss, the same ref who worked the Kessler-Ward fight.

Kessler's skank of a sister could of reffed the fight. He still wasn't winning it

[Freedom]

[powerpuncher]

Jack Reiss from Valencia, California will be the third man in the ring on Saturday in Ontario, California for Andre Ward vs. Edwin Rodríguez (24-0, 16 KOs).

The three judges are Max Deluca from Tustin, California; Jerry Cantu from Westminster, California; and Steve Morrow, from Hollister, California.

Prediction: lots of deliberate fouling by Andre Ward which will be permitted by the shady Jack Reiss, the same ref who worked the Kessler-Ward fight.

if you think that ward fouls a lot then most fighters foul a lot which makes it fair. just like any sport, everybody rides the line on how far you can go before its called a foul. ward is nowhere near people like holyfield or bradley who love to headbutt you.

[VG_Addict]

Just thought you guys should know that Freedom was exposed for being a member of a racist website on the other forums he's been on.