Do you believe in God?

[SugarBoxing]

Speaking of physics "from nothing, nothing derives" I dont know what that something is and am not arrogant enough to make any absolute conclusions on something I cant even comprehend. To do so in one way or the other makes me shallow and misguided.

Most of great men of science were either Jews or believers by the way

[IamInuit]

Speaking of physics "from nothing, nothing derives" I dont know what that something is and am not arrogant enough to make any absolute conclusions on something I cant even comprehend. To do so in one way or the other makes me shallow and misguided.

Most of great men of science were either Jews or believers by the way

That is simply not true. Science deals in empirical evidence. There is no room for belief for its own sake. That might be its problem. No room for the unknown. The arrogance of our species is not only obvious by our wanted destruction of this planet but it is also present in our own minds.

The fact of the matter is, we dont know How can we? Big bang theories dont prove nothing else intelligent exists anymore then evolution does. That's the beauty and the mystery.

[SugarBoxing]

Speaking of physics "from nothing, nothing derives" I dont know what that something is and am not arrogant enough to make any absolute conclusions on something I cant even comprehend. To do so in one way or the other makes me shallow and misguided.

Most of great men of science were either Jews or believers by the way

That is simply not true.

This is simply your Opinion. You just too scared to face the facts

[IamInuit]

Speaking of physics "from nothing, nothing derives" I dont know what that something is and am not arrogant enough to make any absolute conclusions on something I cant even comprehend. To do so in one way or the other makes me shallow and misguided.

Most of great men of science were either Jews or believers by the way

That is simply not true.

This is simply your Opinion. You just too scared to face the facts

What facts? The facts are that most scientists are atheists just like most Christians are dogmatic.You believe in a God that rewards and punishes the objects of his creation. A God then that is no better then us. I dont. That's a fact not an opinion. You believe what you want.

[SugarBoxing]

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You believe in a God that rewards and punishes the objects of his creation.

You may hate and try to punsih cancer, but it does not mean you hate and try to punish the person who has it.
Same for God, who hates sin, but loves sinners

[IamInuit]

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You believe in a God that rewards and punishes the objects of his creation.

You may hate and try to punsih cancer, but it does not mean you hate the person who has it.
Same for God, who hates sin, but loves sinners

Then why create the sin for us to manage? Look your hell and damnation does not wash with me and I was raised Lutheran. In the end you are talking about a flawed God. An emotional one that makes decisions based on the same weaknesses that we do. A God in short that is no better then we are. Whats the point? Its like some cosmos reality tv show and much of the reason I became an existentialist. I may believe that there must be something else other then the fossil fuel I am destined to become at times but it certainly is not the vengeful God you born agains talk about. Now I have to remove myself from this thread because its starting to feel like a vacuum and nothing will be solved.

[SugarBoxing]

[QUOTE=IamInuit;1201140]

You believe in a God that rewards and punishes the objects of his creation.

You may hate and try to punsih cancer, but it does not mean you hate the person who has it.
Same for God, who hates sin, but loves sinners

Then why create the sin for us to manage? Look your hell and damnation does not wash with me and I was raised Lutheran. In the end you are talking about a flawed God. An emotional one that makes decisions based on the same weaknesses that we do. A God in short that is no better then we are. Whats the point? Its like some cosmos reality tv show and much of the reason I became an existentialist. I may believe that there must be something else other then the fossil fuel I am destined to become at times but it certainly is not the vengeful God you born agains talk about. Now I have to remove myself from this thread because its starting to feel like a vacuum and nothing will be solved.

Just remember my name, because when GOd will exalt me, your eyes may be opened, and we go back to discussion. My dream is to win Nobel Prize and be a boxing coach, raising Tyson 2.0 and Sugar Ray 1001. So keep eyes on that. God will make it happen. Then I will go back to thios thread and turn all sinners into believers.

Nuff said!

[Andre]

Speaking of physics "from nothing, nothing derives" I dont know what that something is and am not arrogant enough to make any absolute conclusions on something I cant even comprehend. To do so in one way or the other makes me shallow and misguided.

Most of great men of science were either Jews or believers by the way

That is simply not true.

This is simply your Opinion. You just too scared to face the facts

What facts? The facts are that most scientists are atheists just like most Christians are dogmatic.You believe in a God that rewards and punishes the objects of his creation. A God then that is no better then us. I dont. That's a fact not an opinion. You believe what you want.

I believe in consequences of our own actions in this life and our past, not punishments,not one life,that is a joke.
If we have one life and the modern Christian and Islamic God is a loving forgiving God then why are some people born disformed why are some born into rich families and others into pits and starve to death in their first few years? Is that because of the all loving and forgiving God who has total control over all things?
These modern religions have taught their people to say in reply to those who ask that exact question: "God moves in mysterious ways".
Bullshit, they are covering for what they deleted from their books so there is no longer an answer to that question for them.

Fear and love in their purest forms cannot exist together, one defeats the other, these are the main reasons why many people instinctively avoid these man made modern Christian and Islamic orders. They have shaped a form of mind control over the masses with lies and deceit with built in excuses for why things are the way they are. All of their followers are all taught what to think to support the religion, while the real truth is hidden away in their controllers vaults. They knew once but they went for control over the masses and hid the truth.