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    Default Re: Has David Haye got it right?

    Well I think Haye has slain enough giants now to prove he is at the top. Why should he fight more mundane fighters than the very best when he's already established himself top contender material.

    I think Haye won more rounds against Wladimir than is given credit for and was a more even fight. Haye's workrate was what let him down, obviously because he was cautious of Wlad's power. It was Wlad's toughest fight since Samuel Peter. Still despite Haye's lackadaisical performance he laid out the blueprint to defeat Wladimir for a fast defensive outfighter with a big punch.
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    Default Re: Has David Haye got it right?

    A pathetic human, who only seeks fame to boost his fragile self worth.
    Not someone I would seek to replicate, he was never heavyweight champion and he never will be.
    David please stick to the jungle or whatever Z-list celebrity shows will have you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Well I think Haye has slain enough giants now to prove he is at the top. Why should he fight more mundane fighters than the very best when he's already established himself top contender material.

    I think Haye won more rounds against Wladimir than is given credit for and was a more even fight. Haye's workrate was what let him down, obviously because he was cautious of Wlad's power. It was Wlad's toughest fight since Samuel Peter. Still despite Haye's lackadaisical performance he laid out the blueprint to defeat Wladimir for a fast defensive outfighter with a big punch.
    The blueprint to beating wladimir is definitely not to fight a defensive fight, otherwise he'd have like twenty losses by now seeing as everyone becomes a defensive boxer once they're in with him. Beating wlad stylistically will take an effot akin to povektins imo.

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    Default Re: Has David Haye got it right?

    I should elaborate.

    Firstly what you said used to have merit, pressure fighters with chin and pop like Sanders, Brewster, Peter and Povetkin and if he ever fought him Chisora who try to bull their way inside and land money shots on Wladimir used to have the blue print. But modern Wladimir is far too defensive to ever succumb to such methods, he will just tie them up hug and lean his massive frame on them, tire them out. He learned his lessons since Sanders and Peter. This type of opponent will never trouble Wlad again.

    Haye is different than the other guys like Thompson and Chagaev, Ibragimov and Chambers.

    Haye is faster, has decent range, likes to hang on the outside and dart in for quick explosive attacks and get the hell out relatively unharmed. He can do this with Wladimir and survive all fight if he is very focussed asnd sharp and because he hits hard enough to deck Wladimir he only has to land the lottery ticket once to have Wlad in trouble.

    I would like to see Wlad/Haye 2 with Haye's toe being in good repair haha. Seriously though I think he could do better. Even a 30% chance is better than Povetkin with no chance!
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    Default Re: Has David Haye got it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by armin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Well I think Haye has slain enough giants now to prove he is at the top. Why should he fight more mundane fighters than the very best when he's already established himself top contender material.

    I think Haye won more rounds against Wladimir than is given credit for and was a more even fight. Haye's workrate was what let him down, obviously because he was cautious of Wlad's power. It was Wlad's toughest fight since Samuel Peter. Still despite Haye's lackadaisical performance he laid out the blueprint to defeat Wladimir for a fast defensive outfighter with a big punch.
    The blueprint to beating wladimir is definitely not to fight a defensive fight, otherwise he'd have like twenty losses by now seeing as everyone becomes a defensive boxer once they're in with him. Beating wlad stylistically will take an effot akin to povektins imo.
    abosultely definately not the fight was over in terms of a contest after round 2

    mind you if they would have stuck to the rules it may have been different
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    Default Re: Has David Haye got it right?

    Haye is a very good fighter and is currently holding the #3 slot for me. He deserves a shot at Vitali. My only criticism is the inactivity altho' not his fault with the last injury. He has beaten some very dangerous fighters in his career and has always looked for the best opponents at heavyweight. I hope he beats Fury, who's a very strange person and reminds me a bit of Joe Bugner and is probably at a similar level of ability, which is not a criticism. Fury's eccentricity is growing on me mind in terms of entertainment value.

    One of the more ridiculous issues is that Vitali still has the most prestigious belt, when is he going to defend it??

    Anyway, I hope Haye knocks Fury out. But a lot of people will still say "so what" after he does.. unfairly so in my eyes..

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    Default Re: Has David Haye got it right?

    I think Haye vs Vitali would be a great fight! A definite shootout!

    It would be a tremendous victory for Vitali but a very dangerous opponent for him this late in career. I don't think he'd go for it.

    If Haye were to win it would not only damage Vitali's credibility but Haye would not get as much credit as he would really deserve for it because ppl will say that Vitali was shot, past it and Haye waited to get him in his 40's.

    Haye had everything that it takes to make it to the top bar the massive size some heavies have on him but the thing that really might have kept him from the top the most is his unstable chin!
    "Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"

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