Has David Haye got it right?

[IamInuit]

You have got to be kidding me. The second best heavyweight in the division? Shear comedy. The best guy on his lodge pole is a seven foot sloth. The irony is that he should be the second best in the division with this less then stellar bunch.
I like David Haye and thought that he would blast out the division and even bought his Wlad shtick but he’s an inkblot historically as a heavyweight. He has a legacy to a degree at Cruiser but he’s been a let down for me as a heavyweight. Bit of an underachiever. With his speed, power and athleticism he could have beaten several real players in this average division instead of getting into this celebrity boxing. Oh I’m sure he will leave the game as a multimillionaire. So he does have that legacy.

I would like to believe david is the 2nd best heavyweight but it cant be the case.

David has made alot of money and he will be okay with or without boxing.

We all have a go at Wlad and his opponents but haye was possibly the worst performance i have ever seen against Wlad.

It was so bad that haye knows internally that he had no effect whatsoever and it scared him into retirement.

Haye should have been using his youth and speed to be fighting every other heavyweight under the sun and making waves in this divison.

Now he wants a shot at vitali for another big 10m payday (cant blame him) but i really really hope fury can do a number on haye but i know the odds are against him.

See and that's another thing that bugs me. He should be attempting to get another shot at Wlad not the half retired on the slide brother. What next he challenges him after he becomes president of the Ukraine? The only difference between him and a 2 year old male black bear recently curbed by his mother is that Hayes opportunism is premeditated and dare I say scripted almost to the point of inducing the gag reflex. Somebody above me said he deserved the fight. How so?

because the vast majority of people would prefer to see david haye get the fight than the overwhelming vast majority of other fighters

So? That does not mean he deserves it. He has not done squat. Lets hope that boxing does not rest its head on such shifting foundations and I'm not convinced that actual boxing fans want it. Maybe twitterverse.

[erics44]

So? That does not mean he deserves it. He has not done squat. Lets hope that boxing does not rest its head on such shifting foundations and I'm not convinced that actual boxing fans want it. Maybe twitterverse.

it doesnt matter if he deserves or not, there have been plenty of occasions where a fighter deserves a fight with someone and doesnt get it and nobody bats an eyelid because hes not very interesting

i dont care for justice i just want to be entertained

id much rather see a klit fight someone who could possibly beat him that another fighter who he would just hug to death and wouldnt offer anything else

id much rather watch a decent fight than a well deserved snooze (mind you with wlad involved it probably would be a snooze anyway so it might be a bad example)

and really very few other fighters have shown that they deserve it anyway

look at provetkins last few fights before the wlad fight, haye probably did more in the same time

and i would say the boxing community would choose the fight, if you put all boxing fans on a "how much do you like david haye" graph, lovers on the left, haters on the right and everyone else in the middle, then you took the middle chunk of least bias and most impartial fans, i reckon youd get a majority proportion interested in the fight

[IamInuit]

You know it would be different if a talent such as Haye was in that 140/147 area. There would be a cause for pause but not here. What he has in front of him is perhaps the weakest Heavyweight division since the Marciano timeline and Haye just waits out all the work and then starts calling out about a 60% Vitali who has one foot out the door.
It makes little difference to me or the division that he beats the modern day Primo Carnera in Fury. It bothers me that he’s satisfied by the circus. He has had the tools to absolutely railroad this division and he’s pimped it instead.

[Fenster]

You know it would be different if a talent such as Haye was in that 140/147 area. There would be a cause for pause but not here. What he has in front of him is perhaps the weakest Heavyweight division since the Marciano timeline and Haye just waits out all the work and then starts calling out about a 60% Vitali who has one fought out the door.
It makes little difference to me or the division that he beats the modern day Primo Carnera in Fury. It bothers me that he’s satisfied by the circus. He has had the tools to absolutely railroad this division and he’s pimped it instead.

The Russian heavyweight Magomed Abdusalamov is in a coma because of us | Sport | theguardian.com

[El Kabong]

The Russian heavyweight Magomed Abdusalamov is in a coma because of us | Sport | theguardian.com

How the holy fuck did "America's broken healthcare system" find it's way into that article? Here's the issue, Magomed was easy to hit....THAT and THAT ALONE is why he is in the state he is in. Should other boxers and Magomed's promoters step up and help out his family? HELL YES. But that's beside the point.

Boxing is dangerous but LIVING is dangerous. A light bulb could go out and you could have to get a ladder to change the bulb.....you could fall and break your neck. Boxing is something you do knowing it's dangerous from the start, nobody thinks about the mundane ways they could meet their maker but it happens faaaaar more often than boxers dying or getting injured.