Do you believe in God?

[Gandalf]

But you struggle to comprehend basic English.

To be attacking my comprehension skills when it was IamInuit trying to attack mine when he was obviously wrong is just a weird bamboozle deflection.

Pot, Kettle, Black

But that has nothing to do with God. God is a word is it not and it is a word that has been defined by religious doctrine and so it is only right to use it in that context.

As an agnostic I use the word "God" when referring to an unknown/undefined higher being b/c it is easier when speaking w/theists and atheists b/c that is the word they use/understand. I'm not sure what you are saying has nothing to do w/god? If you are referring to the expansion of the universe, I'd argue that the universe having a distinct starting point challenges a purely secular viewpoint.

No, I call bullshit on that. That's a cop out. Mine was an obvious criticism whilst you had no clearly defined parameters to argue with.

In your second argument you are just arguing semantics. I disagree with the origins of the universe having anything to do with God, it is a scientific thing that will be explained.

Science has always explained, religion has always ceded ground. Logic would assume the former makes a lot more sense.

[VictorCharlie]

Oh well you called BS so I guess that ends it.

Considering we agree that the universe has a distinct starting point and that it would have required something incomprehensible to the human brain to create this sudden and massive expansion, I find this to lead to natural agnostic belief. I think that is where the use of the word shallow and arrogant is applied to atheists. I find the way organized religion attempts to define infinite concepts equally absurd but considering what we know/don't know about the origins of the universe I don't understand some sort of hardline stance that we as finite beings can understand/define all things. Some things are simply beyond our comprehension. All that aside, I completely understand and agree w/your rejection of religion.

[Gandalf]

You know, maybe it does have a starting point, and maybe it doesn't.

All I know is that I look at the sun and sometimes wonder why it doesn't shatter this world to bits right now. Then I realise it is because we seem to understand a bit about it. That is science. It's all we know, so we should believe in what we know rather than what doesn't.

I don't think any of that matters though. I think maybe I have a few decades left and then I am dead and you cannot rely on anything after that. In that sense, it doesn't matter about any of this religious nonsense.

As long as you die with only a few people calling you a bigot to the grave then that is a job well done. You've pissed me off with this bigot language.

[VictorCharlie]

Miles, if I were to start post full of misconceptions and inaccuracies about say the NHS in the UK or its firearm policy followed by a litany of insults about the people of Britain and how their policies are utter nonsense, the UK crowd would rightfully chastise me for trying to preach my American beliefs to them particularly considering outside of flying through Shannon I've never spent any time in the UK. This is pretty much what you have always done. I don't call you a bigot b/c of your beliefs about US foreign policy b/c that actually has some impact on you but the way you criticize American domestic policy despite not really understanding it is absurd. I wouldn't expect a pass on telling people in another country how I know better than them about their nation, how it should work and how horrible it is and you shouldn't either. Be pissed if you want but it seems what you really don't like is having a mirror put in front of you.

[Andre]

I think the starting point is way back beyond 'the splitting point of one into many' which is where we can see back to while in this dimension looking out of material eyes at material.We can be blinded by the light but only when we look one way.

[walrus]

I am writting to reply to a question p4p asked me. He asked how my religion would change if life were found on another planet. I can tell you it wouldn't change at all. Saying we are the only life in the universe would be putting a max on the big guys creation abilities so it would not alter anything. Sorry to reply so late, I just saw your question.

[Dia bando]

The Jehovah witnesses keep coming to my door, on average twice a month they must think
I need saving, fuck them I don't answer the door.
They are like fly's round shit, funny when I had Pit bulls I never had many visitors.