Ward versus Rodriguez card HBO/Box Nation

[p4pking]

I love boxing, but I know what I like, and I have seldom enjoyed an Andre Ward fight. This had all the Ward trademarks. Hugging, butting, absurd nickname and attempts at cheating. Take away those and I would like him more.

Oops, didn't mean to like that post. You're about the stupidest smart person I've ever encountered Miles, and you offer absolutely nothing but negativity in regards to boxing around here. It was a good performance from Ward, who gives a fuck what you think.

[chris6878]

I love boxing, but I know what I like, and I have seldom enjoyed an Andre Ward fight. This had all the Ward trademarks. Hugging, butting, absurd nickname and attempts at cheating. Take away those and I would like him more.

Oops, didn't mean to like that post. You're about the stupidest smart person I've ever encountered Miles, and you offer absolutely nothing but negativity in regards to boxing around here. It was a good performance from Ward, who gives a fuck what you think.

I agree, Gandalf must not like precise combos.

[walrus]

Ward has an incredible jab and as others have said he is on the money with the combos. Good tune up fight for him. Thank God for the ref or that could've been a stinker. He should do the next Wlad fight.

[Spicoli]

Classy send from Lampley for producer

[Spicoli]

Willie Nelson out of the Macklin fight ? Honestly a good move for Willie

[Gandalf]

I love boxing, but I know what I like, and I have seldom enjoyed an Andre Ward fight. This had all the Ward trademarks. Hugging, butting, absurd nickname and attempts at cheating. Take away those and I would like him more.

Oops, didn't mean to like that post. You're about the stupidest smart person I've ever encountered Miles, and you offer absolutely nothing but negativity in regards to boxing around here. It was a good performance from Ward, who gives a fuck what you think.

Am I supposed to say "Oh, I love the grappling, it stimulates me. Also, please keep on attempting to break the rules and get disqualified and most certainly headbutt the other guy at the end to put the icing on the cake". Forgive me for not being on the point of orgasm like some other people.

I couldn't give a hoot if anyone agrees with me, I follow my path. My point of view is as valid as anyone's and some just don't like that I would be mean to the self annointed, American SOG, who also happens to be the dirtiest man in boxing. He's a cheat.

My posts are not always negative, but they are when they talk about negative things. Ward is a negative boxer.

[p4pking]

I love boxing, but I know what I like, and I have seldom enjoyed an Andre Ward fight. This had all the Ward trademarks. Hugging, butting, absurd nickname and attempts at cheating. Take away those and I would like him more.

Oops, didn't mean to like that post. You're about the stupidest smart person I've ever encountered Miles, and you offer absolutely nothing but negativity in regards to boxing around here. It was a good performance from Ward, who gives a fuck what you think.

Am I supposed to say "Oh, I love the grappling, it stimulates me. Also, please keep on attempting to break the rules and get disqualified and most certainly headbutt the other guy at the end to put the icing on the cake". Forgive me for not being on the point of orgasm like some other people.

I couldn't give a hoot if anyone agrees with me, I follow my path. My point of view is as valid as anyone's and some just don't like that I would be mean to the self annointed, American SOG, who also happens to be the dirtiest man in boxing. He's a cheat.

My posts are not always negative, but they are when they talk about negative things. Ward is a negative boxer.

Rodriguez tried to break the rules FAR more than Ward tonight, Andre fought a pretty clean fight I thought. And your posts really are almost all negative, I mean come on. Why did you watch the fight if you have such a predisposed opinion, who cares what any fighter is like out of the ring. You'd rather watch James Toney than Andre Ward currently, that tells me you are basically clueless as a boxing fan. I like you as a person, but just don't get why you don't do something about your shit given the way you post around here.

[Gandalf]

I love boxing, but I know what I like, and I have seldom enjoyed an Andre Ward fight. This had all the Ward trademarks. Hugging, butting, absurd nickname and attempts at cheating. Take away those and I would like him more.

Oops, didn't mean to like that post. You're about the stupidest smart person I've ever encountered Miles, and you offer absolutely nothing but negativity in regards to boxing around here. It was a good performance from Ward, who gives a fuck what you think.

Am I supposed to say "Oh, I love the grappling, it stimulates me. Also, please keep on attempting to break the rules and get disqualified and most certainly headbutt the other guy at the end to put the icing on the cake". Forgive me for not being on the point of orgasm like some other people.

I couldn't give a hoot if anyone agrees with me, I follow my path. My point of view is as valid as anyone's and some just don't like that I would be mean to the self annointed, American SOG, who also happens to be the dirtiest man in boxing. He's a cheat.

My posts are not always negative, but they are when they talk about negative things. Ward is a negative boxer.

Rodriguez tried to break the rules FAR more than Ward tonight, Andre fought a pretty clean fight I thought. And your posts really are almost all negative, I mean come on. Why did you watch the fight if you have such a predisposed opinion, who cares what any fighter is like out of the ring. You'd rather watch James Toney than Andre Ward currently, that tells me you are basically clueless as a boxing fan. I like you as a person, but just don't get why you don't do something about your shit given the way you post around here.

I watched the fight and saw the same old, same old. It was the Bika fight against someone with none of Bika's skills. And get out of here with the comments about being clueless. Do something about 'my shit'? I've no idea what any of that means.

When it comes down to boxing, I am an aesthete. I enjoy particular styles and none of them involve cheating to get what one wants. James Toney is a purists dream as a boxer, Ward is quite definitely far more flawed. For the same reason Hopkins can never consider himself aesthetically pleasing. An aesthete is pure and bases the artistry around the rules. It means using the 12 rounds to show skills, not spoil and cheat. It is after all a fight. In a different style, Calzaghe and Paquiao are also great examples of quality boxing which I also enjoy a great deal. Fighters don't hug each other, watch the Marquez/Pac fights and count the hugs. Great fighters don't do it to excess.

I'm not going to give credit to the likes of Ruiz, Wlad and Ward, when they are horrible to watch. James Toney at 45 is still a far more HONEST fighter once that bell goes than Andre Ward and that is why I speak positively of James Toney and not of Ward. I love boxing and watch all the fights and know what I like. If it is ugly, then I will be there saying it is. If I am not being consistent then point it out, but this bout was largely negative and against someone who had a chin and little more.

[p4pking]

I just meant if I was as outwardly bitter as you, I probably wouldn't post here any more. It's obviously incredibly unhealthy, nobody respects your opinion as much as they would if you focused on things you aren't clueless about, I won't backtrack on that.