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With regard to the comparisons with Mayweather's record, as I said earlier in the thread, Ward has arguably beat better competition than Mayweather has over the last few years. I don't think Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Canelo are as tough a schedule as Kessler, Froch, Bika, Dawson, and Rodiguez. Kessler and Froch were lower end p4p guys and Bika was tough at that stage of his career. Now, you may say Mayweather has done it with more style, but his competition hasn't been as high in my opinion.
Whos to say floyds opponents wouldnt beat ward opponents in a same weight fantasy island world.

Shall we say ward opponents are better than RJ opponents during his reign?

Who else shall we bring up?
How about the undefeated calzaghes opponents?!

Ward is a class act and well deserving of the p4p no.2 position.

He has a different style thats not great to watch but he has the X FACTOR as he keeps winning.

And thats all that counts.
As boxing fans, aren't we constantly debating legacies of different fighters? It's part of the fun! What is pound for pound if not fantasy? We don't know how Floyd would do against Klitschko's style if weight was irrelevant, but that doesn't mean we can't debate it. It also doesn't sound like you are disagreeing with me.

In any event, I'm not debating Mayweather should be p4p No. 1 right now, but if Ward keeps fighting tough opponents, he'll start itching closer to that spot. For example, if he cleaned out 175, he might take over the p4p number 1 spot.

The main problem I have with Ward is his lack of stance on the PED issue. He's throwing the same arguments Pacquiao threw out when Mayweather wanted PED testing for their fight. I'm surprised people are jumping on him as much as they did Pacquiao.