James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "

[IamInuit]

Call me crazy but I think even this version of Toney still has what one might call enough muscle memory as a master counter puncher to get in between those extra wide punches Wilder throws that seem to originate in a different country.

You know George Chuvalo has recently went on record about a week ago saying that he credits his addiction to Double Bubble as the reason for his granite chin. I actually believe him. You can see the jaw muscles at work in the mirror with a mouth full of that gum. I was probably chewing DB when I watched him fight the then Clay in 66. Back then a piece of DB was about the same size as an ounce of hash.

I don't think Wilder has a chin at all and I think Toney is still clever enough to get one in and test it.

And a silence comes over the crowd as they hear a lone smart ass from the bleeders saying "timber" with a long drawn out pitch.

Anything can happen in the ring, so you could be right, but Wilder does have a decent jab and Toney will be eating a ton of them. Toney is not what he was, remember that if you see him on the canvas.
The Bubble gum theory could be correct, but I think Chuvalo's neck and disposition should be taken into account too.

All I am saying is that even in Toneys depleted state, he still has the ability to get off the ropes and get in between those wide shots and I think Wilders chin is a real issue.

[beenKOed]

Call me crazy but I think even this version of Toney still has what one might call enough muscle memory as a master counter puncher to get in between those extra wide punches Wilder throws that seem to originate in a different country.

You know George Chuvalo has recently went on record about a week ago saying that he credits his addiction to Double Bubble as the reason for his granite chin. I actually believe him. You can see the jaw muscles at work in the mirror with a mouth full of that gum. I was probably chewing DB when I watched him fight the then Clay in 66. Back then a piece of DB was about the same size as an ounce of hash.

I don't think Wilder has a chin at all and I think Toney is still clever enough to get one in and test it.

And a silence comes over the crowd as they hear a lone smart ass from the bleeders saying "timber" with a long drawn out pitch.

Anything can happen in the ring, so you could be right, but Wilder does have a decent jab and Toney will be eating a ton of them. Toney is not what he was, remember that if you see him on the canvas.
The Bubble gum theory could be correct, but I think Chuvalo's neck and disposition should be taken into account too.

All I am saying is that even in Toneys depleted state, he still has the ability to get off the ropes and get in between those wide shots and I think Wilders chin is a real issue.

I am not looking for an argument, but why do you think Wilder's chin is an issue? I haven't seen it tested yet, what did I miss? Maybe you think his puffy record points to a weak chin? I'm just interested in what you have to say about the chin.

[IamInuit]

I am not looking for an argument, but why do you think Wilder's chin is an issue? I haven't seen it tested yet, what did I miss? Maybe you think his puffy record points to a weak chin? I'm just interested in what you have to say about the chin.

Lol neither am I. I just think they are hiding something and its most likely his chin. His careful handling is more then coddling. To me its paranoia. I think the Firtha fight sustained it for me. Wilder looked stunned by a jab that had nothing on it. I'm starting to feel the same way about one of my favourites in Gary Russell.

[greynotsoold]

Getting old has to be really hard on a guy like Toney, looking at a guy like Wilder and thinking "Free Lunch." But you get to a point where it just doesn't go together like it used to.
And he's a middleweight, light heavy at most. All fighters look at heavies and think "Free Lunch" and resent the money they make because heavies are slow and stupid and easy to hit. Theoretically. And then there is the weight and size difference, but that is where it starts.

[Spicoli]

I am not looking for an argument, but why do you think Wilder's chin is an issue? I haven't seen it tested yet, what did I miss? Maybe you think his puffy record points to a weak chin? I'm just interested in what you have to say about the chin.

Lol neither am I. I just think they are hiding something and its most likely his chin. His careful handling is more then coddling. To me its paranoia. I think the Firtha fight sustained it for me. Wilder looked stunned by a jab that had nothing on it. I'm starting to feel the same way about one of my favourites in Gary Russell.

Running random here but I haven't been as skeptical on a fighter as Wilder since Berto was coming up, but even Berto had faced -decent- comp early. I really don't know or think Wilder is being looked at case for case. The dude is as packaged as they come. Frankly..he's terrible.
Fearless Deontays 15th fight, just watched it...wow! This "heavyweight opponent" was coming off a 2 yr layoff. He had last lost to Prince Badi Ajamu something and ko'd by Yusaf Mack...at Lt. heavyweight! He threw a total of FOUR jabs here...6 months later he lost to a 41 yr old Montell Griffin..at Lt. heavyweight! Wilder managed to literally shake his ass more times than Abran managed to throw punches. This actually looks like at least half his fights

[greynotsoold]

Wilder looks like shit. No wonder Toney wants to fight him.

[Dark Lord Al]

People overlook the fact Wilder has already beaten one of the best HW's of modern times , a fearless fighter in Audley Harrison.

[Max Power]

Look no matter what issues Wilder has, skill, chin, stamina, none of it would matter at all.

Wilder would completely level "Fat Toney" with his first connected right hand!

Any other claim is just ridiculous and Toney must have a death wish. He should be forced to retire on the grounds that his brain is no longer functioning properly.