HBO/BOXNATION- PACQUIAO v RIOS -The Clash in Cotai-SATURDAY NIGHT CHAT THREAD

[TitoFan]

Rios picks a fight with Kellerman cause he couldn't pick one with Manny. Dude, Come on.

Great fight. But the difference in class shows up AFTER the fight. Manny goes around and congratulates the entire Rios camp on a good show. Then he does a classy interview. Rios and his puffed up face claims he never felt Pac's power, and decides to pick a fight with Max instead.

Par for the course.

Personally, I wish he had knocked Kellerman on his ass. If Rios was Puerto Rican, Kellerman would have been falling all over him.
I don't have anything against Puerto Ricans, but I don't like journalists or color men who think they can say anything they want and never get called out for it.
I was feeling good last night, RJJ was hammering Max all night and Rios stood him up at the end.
I'm a Manny fan, I wanted him to win, I'm glad he won and his post fight comments were what I expected.
I like Rios too, his fights with Alvarado were great, but he is Mexican from a Mexican gym so you are not going to hear any 'We are the World' stuff come out of his mouth. When Rios said, referring to Manny, "His speed bothered me a little." that was a HUGE admission for him.
It's who he is, coming from the culture he grew up in, and I respect it. You don't have to respect it but you should try to understand it, because it's not going to change any time soon.
By the way, I used to be a Kellerman fan, but he's turning into a younger version of Larry 'The Pompous Ass' Merchant.
Hey, I feel much better now! Hahaha

Kellerman doesn't bother me too much.... he's nothing like Jim Grey, a guy I can't stand, and one that I'm happy doesn't do too many fights. Now there's a guy who goes out of his way to antagonize fighters and be controversial. You gotta expect to get some pointed questions when you're being interviewed. I was the first to blast JuanMa Lopez for his ridiculously stupid comments about the ref having a betting problem after JuanMa had gotten TKO'ed by Salido.... so I'm not about to cut Rios any slack. Also, Rios "made up" for his admission of Pacquiao's speed by claiming that Pac had no power. Sorry, but his face begs to differ. I've never liked Rios. He comes from that punkish mentality I've come to abhor in boxing. He's tough and has a granite chin, so that gives him a free pass to be an a-hole. Wrong.

[walrus]

My link cut out a couple times during the fight but I heard a couple exchanges where RJJ was heated at Kellerman. It seems they have disagreements in a majority of the fights they call. Is it turning into some genuine disdain?

[Beanflicker]

Yeah I agree, Kellerman is nowhere near as disrespectful and arrogant as Jim Grey.

There's a fine line between being the journalist with integrity who asks the tough questions, and being a disrespectful shit disturber.

I'm a fan of Kellerman, usually he is much better. But don't be disrespectful to a guy who went out there and gave it his all and got dominated. If Rios came out just looking to collect a payday, sure, fire away. He wanted to win the fight, he just got outclassed by an ELITE level boxer, who he never had much a chance against anyway.

Rios did what was expected, he came forward and fought until the end. Don't disrespect the guy and call him a punching bag.

[Hulk]

I didn't think Max was out of line in the interview.

If anything I thought Rios was being a little asshole trying to bully Kellerman, who should have just ended the interview right there.

The problem with letting punks like Rios go the distance is that they will then turn around and immediately bad mouth you and say they were never hurt and all this nonsense.

Pacquaio should have finished the little motherfucker off when he had the chance.

[Beanflicker]

Rios is full of shit, in another thread someone posted the post-fight interview where Rios said he was afraid to really open up because he probably would have gotten knocked out.

[beenKOed]

Rios is full of shit, in another thread someone posted the post-fight interview where Rios said he was afraid to really open up because he probably would have gotten knocked out.

Is he talking about himself or Manny?

[ruthless rocco]

Max was being an asshole.

[bradlee180]

I had a clean sweep. Contgrats to Pac he clearly exposed Rios for what he is ... a tough mid level caliber knuckle head fighter with little skills / movement and a trainer that took a vacation in Macau. Impressive show but it "DOES NOT WARRANT" a Mayweather fight. It warrants a Prod, Bradley or Garcia match. Only a win over Garcia will earn Pac a match with Money despite a desperate HBO clamoring for the fight. Besides if it ever does take place it will be on Showtime.

What are you on about, $#!t-brains? Nobody wants to see that match anymore, the moment has passed...

[beenKOed]

I had a clean sweep. Contgrats to Pac he clearly exposed Rios for what he is ... a tough mid level caliber knuckle head fighter with little skills / movement and a trainer that took a vacation in Macau. Impressive show but it "DOES NOT WARRANT" a Mayweather fight. It warrants a Prod, Bradley or Garcia match. Only a win over Garcia will earn Pac a match with Money despite a desperate HBO clamoring for the fight. Besides if it ever does take place it will be on Showtime.

What are you on about, $#!t-brains? Nobody wants to see that match anymore, the moment has passed...

Sad but true, it's likely we never see Manny vs Floyd. Boxing is a business, so there is always a chance the fight could happen, but don't hold your breath.
Manny has to keep winning--hopefully not a problem for a refocused Manny--and there is always Arum to deal with, so the chances are slim and none, in my opinion.

[Mr140]

Is there a reason why Rios was the fight of choice was it to build up Pacs confidence again. Anyhow would like to see a rematch with Bradley and or maybe Jmm again but he never looks good against him. I not sure there not many option for him and the Mayweather fight is now gone so who knows.

[Addicted to_boxing]

I had a clean sweep. Contgrats to Pac he clearly exposed Rios for what he is ... a tough mid level caliber knuckle head fighter with little skills / movement and a trainer that took a vacation in Macau. Impressive show but it "DOES NOT WARRANT" a Mayweather fight. It warrants a Prod, Bradley or Garcia match. Only a win over Garcia will earn Pac a match with Money despite a desperate HBO clamoring for the fight. Besides if it ever does take place it will be on Showtime.

What are you on about, $#!t-brains? Nobody wants to see that match anymore, the moment has passed...

DOES NOT WARRANT" a Mayweather fight. Do you not know what warrants means ........ appears you have no brains. I am bascally saying time has passed I agree. But we do not make the matches ir get a slice of the $$$$$

[Addicted to_boxing]

Is there a reason why Rios was the fight of choice was it to build up Pacs confidence again. Anyhowj would like to see a rematch with Bradley and or maybe Jmm again but he never looks good against him. I not sure there not many option for him and the Mayweather fight is now gone so who knows.

Rios comes straight foward, has no lateral movement, no speed, no one punch KO power, Makes no in fight adjustments, does not move his head. A lighter less power hitting Abril showcased this awhile back by beating Rios ass off by boxing him as did Alvarado . Ask yourself how Pac stacks up next to Abril & Alvarado roll over a couple of times from laughing so hard and ask yourself why am I asking such a stupid question?

Remaining cherry picking bouts with Rios like traits a Pac delicacy all to be fought in Macau:
* Ghost - light hitting
* Ortiz - no heart, long inactivity
* Josesito Lopes - Rios Clone
* Maidana - Rios with power, no defense
* Mathysse with power , no defense

Las Vegas Bouts these guys will not fight in Macau and concede that Pac is more important than them
*Bradley - was ripped off
*Garcia - The best fight out there
*Broner - The one fight I would root for Pac

In Pac's Dreams
* JMM - 10 years JMM played second fiddle to Pac ( I believe JMM lost the first fight / drew the second / won the 3rd and finished the story in the 4th) I would make my rival suffer the rest of his life for this (a lifetime nightmare sentence to endure) .
* Mayweather - Had the opportunity to fight Mayweather & bought the juice by beliving he was the bigger draw than Money then gets KTFO in devastating fashion .... Adios no more need for a fight .