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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I think Cotto would wallop JMM. The jab Cotto has, the solid defense, the power....JMM is durable and is an all time great but there's only so much the man can do. The style matchup is all wrong.
    He's also a lot slower of hand and thought than JMM is.

    And before the Delvin Rodriguez fight, people were calling for Cotto to retire because he was washed up. I don't know why a win of Delvin Rodriguez, who isn't that great, would change this sentiment.
    I don't know why losses to Mayweather and Trout would bring it along....no one is calling for Alvarez to retire and IMO he's lost to both of them as well...

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    I don't know why losses to Mayweather and Trout would bring it along....no one is calling for Alvarez to retire and IMO he's lost to both of them as well...
    Isn't it amazing how one fight changes everything? Before the Rodriguez fight, all anyone could talk about was how much punishment Cotto has taken over his career, how he was all done and how he should retire to preserve his health.

    Now: retirement talk? What retirement talk?

    lol

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    I've thought this would be an epic fight for several years now, and don't see it as either guy being "all wrong" for the other, it would be a war imo. Cotto wouldn't stay on his bicycle and fight like Bradley did, but he would need to use his jab very well and be smart. I could see him getting countered trying to dig the body, but I'm also not sure how Marquez would handle that giving up a good bit of size. Would love to see it.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.


    lol so because jmm finally beat pac and pac beat cotto, u say that cotto loses? Am I correct?
    cotto is too big for jmm, and he would punish juan with body shots. I say cotto in a split.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.
    Mayweather didn't knock Marquez the fuck out after the 3rd due to ring rust and pure mercy, going on to win every round, Cotto gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights to date, a hell of a lot tougher of a fight than Alvarez did, Cotto would wear him down and spank Marquez

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.
    Mayweather didn't knock Marquez the fuck out after the 3rd due to ring rust and pure mercy, going on to win every round, Cotto gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights to date, a hell of a lot tougher of a fight than Alvarez did, Cotto would wear him down and spank Marquez
    Yeah Cotto gave Mayweather a tougher fight than Alvarez did. He also took more of beating than Alvarez did. What that has to do in match up between Marquez and Cotto, I have no fucking idea.

    Anyway I think Cotto would be competitive the whole fight. He'll have his moments. But Cotto is a very good fighter. Marquez is a great fighter. Great fighters beat very good fighters

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.
    Mayweather didn't knock Marquez the fuck out after the 3rd due to ring rust and pure mercy, going on to win every round, Cotto gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights to date, a hell of a lot tougher of a fight than Alvarez did, Cotto would wear him down and spank Marquez
    Yeah Cotto gave Mayweather a tougher fight than Alvarez did. He also took more of beating than Alvarez did. What that has to do in match up between Marquez and Cotto, I have no fucking idea.

    Anyway I think Cotto would be competitive the whole fight. He'll have his moments. But Cotto is a very good fighter. Marquez is a great fighter. Great fighters beat very good fighters
    Cotto did better than expected against Floyd only because Floyd fought down to his level and stayed in the pocket..

    If Floyd didnt get out of character, Cotto would have got schooled..

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.
    Mayweather didn't knock Marquez the fuck out after the 3rd due to ring rust and pure mercy, going on to win every round, Cotto gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights to date, a hell of a lot tougher of a fight than Alvarez did, Cotto would wear him down and spank Marquez
    Yeah Cotto gave Mayweather a tougher fight than Alvarez did. He also took more of beating than Alvarez did. What that has to do in match up between Marquez and Cotto, I have no fucking idea.

    Anyway I think Cotto would be competitive the whole fight. He'll have his moments. But Cotto is a very good fighter. Marquez is a great fighter. Great fighters beat very good fighters
    It has just as much to do with it as Pac/Cotto has to do with how Marquez/Cotto would play out, which is nothing, Marquez doesn't have the speed or volume of punches that Manny has, he fights usually a slow pace which would do him no favors with a guy who isn't as careless as Pacquiao has been in the past, Cotto is himself a GREAT fighter, you don't build up the resume he has by being just good, Bradley doesn't have the boxing ability of Cotto and he still managed to pull rounds away from him, he has pillow fists and still rocked the hell out of Marquez in the 12th, Cotto beats Marquez handily unless Marquez tries to weigh drain him, hell Finitio himself knows it, that's why he called for a catchweight...

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    I don't know why losses to Mayweather and Trout would bring it along....no one is calling for Alvarez to retire and IMO he's lost to both of them as well...
    Isn't it amazing how one fight changes everything? Before the Rodriguez fight, all anyone could talk about was how much punishment Cotto has taken over his career, how he was all done and how he should retire to preserve his health.

    Now: retirement talk? What retirement talk?

    lol
    yea the ones talking about him retiring were the same people who are saying that Marquez would beat him now, Cotto lost to the best p4p fighter in the world, and one of the top 5 guys at 154 who arguably should have a W against Canelo himself in Trout, don't see how that ever equals being done

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Think the fight would look kinda boring for a while but Cotto can be hurt and stopped Jmm has the power very good counter puncher. As for Cotto would not lose to Bradley i disagree i find that to be a good fight and can see Bradley winning on points. Cotto a good fighter and all but Elite level his best win was a md over a 36 year old Mosley that could easily be a draw. Anyhow i would watch the fight and i think more likely that it could end in ko either way but i think jmm could do it with the right counter.
    Last edited by Mr140; 11-26-2013 at 06:45 AM.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Cotto needs to come back further than pounding out a gimme showcase in Rodriquez. These two are best of an era, battle worn and near an exit but they can garner more jingle if they opt not to cancel each other out. If that makes sense. Besides the weights are all wrong, Cotto at 147 should be a no go and Marquez above 144 is pushing it.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    I think Cotto can make 147 i don't see why not he is not a huge Lmw or anything be another Mexico vs island thing going be some money in it. Both are not getting younger i Jmm not might as well get some more money for retirement before calling a day be a good idea.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    I think Cotto can make 147 i don't see why not he is not a huge Lmw or anything be another Mexico vs island thing going be some money in it. Both are not getting younger i Jmm not might as well get some more money for retirement before calling a day be a good idea.
    He certainly can make 147, even 140 if he wasn't lazy.. IT's well known that Cotto is lazy in the gym, being his own boss in the gym and often training himself even..

    I dont know about his work ethic under Roach but he's been a certain way for a long time..

    Cotto is a natural 140-147 and he could make the weight if he really tried..

    He sure aint no JMW..

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