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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Think the fight would look kinda boring for a while but Cotto can be hurt and stopped Jmm has the power very good counter puncher. As for Cotto would not lose to Bradley i disagree i find that to be a good fight and can see Bradley winning on points. Cotto a good fighter and all but Elite level his best win was a md over a 36 year old Mosley that could easily be a draw. Anyhow i would watch the fight and i think more likely that it could end in ko either way but i think jmm could do it with the right counter.
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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Cotto needs to come back further than pounding out a gimme showcase in Rodriquez. These two are best of an era, battle worn and near an exit but they can garner more jingle if they opt not to cancel each other out. If that makes sense. Besides the weights are all wrong, Cotto at 147 should be a no go and Marquez above 144 is pushing it.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    I think Cotto can make 147 i don't see why not he is not a huge Lmw or anything be another Mexico vs island thing going be some money in it. Both are not getting younger i Jmm not might as well get some more money for retirement before calling a day be a good idea.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.
    Mayweather didn't knock Marquez the fuck out after the 3rd due to ring rust and pure mercy, going on to win every round, Cotto gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights to date, a hell of a lot tougher of a fight than Alvarez did, Cotto would wear him down and spank Marquez
    Yeah Cotto gave Mayweather a tougher fight than Alvarez did. He also took more of beating than Alvarez did. What that has to do in match up between Marquez and Cotto, I have no fucking idea.

    Anyway I think Cotto would be competitive the whole fight. He'll have his moments. But Cotto is a very good fighter. Marquez is a great fighter. Great fighters beat very good fighters

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    I think Cotto can make 147 i don't see why not he is not a huge Lmw or anything be another Mexico vs island thing going be some money in it. Both are not getting younger i Jmm not might as well get some more money for retirement before calling a day be a good idea.
    He certainly can make 147, even 140 if he wasn't lazy.. IT's well known that Cotto is lazy in the gym, being his own boss in the gym and often training himself even..

    I dont know about his work ethic under Roach but he's been a certain way for a long time..

    Cotto is a natural 140-147 and he could make the weight if he really tried..

    He sure aint no JMW..

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.
    Mayweather didn't knock Marquez the fuck out after the 3rd due to ring rust and pure mercy, going on to win every round, Cotto gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights to date, a hell of a lot tougher of a fight than Alvarez did, Cotto would wear him down and spank Marquez
    Yeah Cotto gave Mayweather a tougher fight than Alvarez did. He also took more of beating than Alvarez did. What that has to do in match up between Marquez and Cotto, I have no fucking idea.

    Anyway I think Cotto would be competitive the whole fight. He'll have his moments. But Cotto is a very good fighter. Marquez is a great fighter. Great fighters beat very good fighters
    Cotto did better than expected against Floyd only because Floyd fought down to his level and stayed in the pocket..

    If Floyd didnt get out of character, Cotto would have got schooled..

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Yea thats what i mean why is he not at 147 i mean Bradley fight, Pac fight, and also Jmm fight. Lmw has the ginger thats about it Trout and the other guys name starts with a L are not big attractions. i mean at this point the WW have the bigger names and paydays really no comparison.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Yea thats what i mean why is he not at 147 i mean Bradley fight, Pac fight, and also Jmm fight. Lmw has the ginger thats about it Trout and the other guys name starts with a L are not big attractions. i mean at this point the WW have the bigger names and paydays really no comparison.
    You're right and that's another point I want to make.. There are two reasons why Cotto is blowing himself up to fight at 154..

    1. He's too lazy to make 147

    2. There are too many killers at 147

    He fights at 154 cuz the competition is easier.. Businesswise, there is no reason why he should be fighting in a shallow division when there are shitload of huge paydays at 147..

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Well he starts seeing the dollar signs he may put down the junk food. I don't think he beats any of the top WW right now but i don't think he can beat the top Lmw either might as well make more money. I mean as a fighter there no pension got to get all you can before your out of this sport.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    He fought the top dog at 147 and was demolished. He jumped up because..age, body, and a guy named Yuri Foreman holding a trinket aka money chip for him. He builds up, gets biggest name and payday at 154 with Mayweather and losses. The Trout loss was his screwed pooch in what was thought another rebound fight by more than a few to bigger things, see Canelo..now he's rebuilding yet again. A go at Marquez may get him a 'name' but not a current statement on where he is actually at in career. Molina holds a 154 trinket ffs. Cotto is not going to wake up one morning and be reborn at 140-147. You don't get that time or the years back.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Pacman had cotto running away and cowering like a frightened stooge.. marquez would teach him a boxing lesson and punish him.
    Mayweather didn't knock Marquez the fuck out after the 3rd due to ring rust and pure mercy, going on to win every round, Cotto gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights to date, a hell of a lot tougher of a fight than Alvarez did, Cotto would wear him down and spank Marquez
    Yeah Cotto gave Mayweather a tougher fight than Alvarez did. He also took more of beating than Alvarez did. What that has to do in match up between Marquez and Cotto, I have no fucking idea.

    Anyway I think Cotto would be competitive the whole fight. He'll have his moments. But Cotto is a very good fighter. Marquez is a great fighter. Great fighters beat very good fighters
    It has just as much to do with it as Pac/Cotto has to do with how Marquez/Cotto would play out, which is nothing, Marquez doesn't have the speed or volume of punches that Manny has, he fights usually a slow pace which would do him no favors with a guy who isn't as careless as Pacquiao has been in the past, Cotto is himself a GREAT fighter, you don't build up the resume he has by being just good, Bradley doesn't have the boxing ability of Cotto and he still managed to pull rounds away from him, he has pillow fists and still rocked the hell out of Marquez in the 12th, Cotto beats Marquez handily unless Marquez tries to weigh drain him, hell Finitio himself knows it, that's why he called for a catchweight...

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Cotto would beat JMM he would be too big and strong and Miguel is just as quick and seasoned as Marquez. The weight at 150lb would be the deciding factor. What is JMM next fight?
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    El what wins on his resume are really that great for Cotto i mean his best win is a past it Mosley although not shot still good fighter he was 36 and that fight could of been a draw. Cotto was a good fighter i might give him great but at top level he fell short was never the man of a division really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    El what wins on his resume are really that great for Cotto i mean his best win is a past it Mosley although not shot still good fighter he was 36 and that fight could of been a draw. Cotto was a good fighter i might give him great but at top level he fell short was never the man of a division really.
    He was the man at 147 until he fought Margarito who cheated. At 147 Cotto battered people, he would break jaws and do big damage...he stopped Gianaluca Branco with a hook to the fucking shoulder. JMM is tough, he's smart, but he's not going to take out Cotto. Cotto would win a wide UD or perhaps stop JMM.

    Cotto's worst fight came when he didn't even have a trainer in his corner vs Pacquiao and he still hung tough. Cotto troubled Floyd more than JMM did that's for certain. Cotto might not be fast but he's got TIMING and timing can beat speed we all know that. Cotto may not be the warrior he used to be but he's got more in the tank than JMM does....and again he certainly would never have lost to Bradley.

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    Default Re: Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    IF you disagree, tell me why..

    HE goes life and death against Juan Diaz.

    Cotto is better in all aspects.

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