The Groves Fight Was A Fix And Groves Never Had A Chance

[Fenster]

All of which was common knowledge beforehand.

[p4pking]

Well regardless of whether anything was fixed, Groves certainly had every chance to win. I do wonder if he'd taken a knee right away, whether the ref would have still waved it off. It really did look like he'd been waiting for a chance to imo.

[Dean Duke]

After watching the fight back a few times ( i enjoyed it that much ) there was no way Groves was walking away with two belts with no promoter, the two judges who had Groves one round up should be banned from the sport and the stoppage was the worst i have ever seen. If I was George Groves I would be absolutly gutted.

[erics44]

i dunno if it was a fix or not or whatever

but whats interesting is that people can fix these types of fights where theres thousands of people there and multiple times more watching at home

i mean the klit fights are obviously heavily in favour of the klit, i sometimes wonder what would happen if klit ever got caught in a fight promoted by the klits

what lengths would the ref and officials and cornerman and everyone go to to allow the klit to continue and get the victory

with that in mind what lengths do they go to before the fight to ensure the klits win, obviously the ref is paid off and it would probably be clear the judges were too if the fight could ever be close under their rules (as seen with fighters like sven ottke), but what else?

[Silkeyjoe]

i dunno if it was a fix or not or whatever

but whats interesting is that people can fix these types of fights where theres thousands of people there and multiple times more watching at home

i mean the klit fights are obviously heavily in favour of the klit, i sometimes wonder what would happen if klit ever got caught in a fight promoted by the klits

what lengths would the ref and officials and cornerman and everyone go to to allow the klit to continue and get the victory

with that in mind what lengths do they go to before the fight to ensure the klits win, obviously the ref is paid off and it would probably be clear the judges were too if the fight could ever be close under their rules (as seen with fighters like sven ottke), but what else?

It would be like Bute v Andrade 1 or Maccarenelli v McPhilbin, as soon as he gets into trouble the time keeper somehow gets confused and rings the bell to end the round 30 seconds in or give an extremely long count

[Vendettos]

I couldn't agree more.

[IamInuit]

Well regardless of whether anything was fixed, Groves certainly had every chance to win. I do wonder if he'd taken a knee right away, whether the ref would have still waved it off. It really did look like he'd been waiting for a chance to imo.

I was thinking the same thing or maybe touch his glove to the mat but @erics44 made a hell of a point in another thread. Essentially, that he was never in any danger prior to the actual stoppage so the taking of a knee or touching a glove would have not entered the air space. I'm sure that if he knew ahead of time that he was about to be a victim bad call he would have done so. Based on the evidence had he taken a knee before that moment when he was buzzed, the ref would have stopped the fight while he was landing a right hand on Carl. And the two 1 point cards

I'm of the mind that fixes happen more then we care to think but not many go this badly.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Looking at the scorecards at the time of the stoppage, yes, i think you are right..

Groves was going to get robbed regardless..

Everybody was in on it..

[ruthless rocco]

groves was about to be KO'd.
was it stopped early? yes...but he was about to be destroyed.
groves' inexperience let him down. he boxed beautifully over 7 rounds but he got cocky and decided to trade with froch. lord knows why.

[Violent Demise]

groves was about to be KO'd.
was it stopped early? yes...but he was about to be destroyed.
groves' inexperience let him down. he boxed beautifully over 7 rounds but he got cocky and decided to trade with froch. lord knows why.

I don't think Groves was even that hurt. He was buzzed by a punch. But by no means was he unable to defend himself. He was riding out the storm before Foster remembered

"Oh shit. It's the 9th round. I gotta get mine"

[ruthless rocco]

groves was about to be KO'd.
was it stopped early? yes...but he was about to be destroyed.
groves' inexperience let him down. he boxed beautifully over 7 rounds but he got cocky and decided to trade with froch. lord knows why.

I don't think Groves was even that hurt. He was buzzed by a punch. But by no means was he unable to defend himself. He was riding out the storm before Foster remembered

"Oh shit. It's the 9th round. I gotta get mine"

groves was gassed and was slugging with a slugger. he was getting KO'd momentarily.

[Bo-Bo24]

I wouldn't go as far to say it was fixed but the odds were heavily against Groves. If the fight had continued Im in no doubt Froch would of somehow won on points because those score cards were bullshit. The only way Groves could of won is to knock Carl Froch out which has never been done before.

[Primo Carnera]

Looking at the scorecards at the time of the stoppage, yes, i think you are right..

Groves was going to get robbed regardless..

Everybody was in on it..

I feel stupid shouting "FIX" , but I genuinely think it was. No wonder Ward won't come over to fight Froch. He would dish out another lesson and lose his "0" to a smelly decision.

[ono]

Well regardless of whether anything was fixed, Groves certainly had every chance to win. I do wonder if he'd taken a knee right away, whether the ref would have still waved it off. It really did look like he'd been waiting for a chance to imo.

I was thinking the same thing or maybe touch his glove to the mat but @erics44 made a hell of a point in another thread. Essentially, that he was never in any danger prior to the actual stoppage so the taking of a knee or touching a glove would have not entered the air space. I'm sure that if he knew ahead of time that he was about to be a victim bad call he would have done so. Based on the evidence had he taken a knee before that moment when he was buzzed, the ref would have stopped the fight while he was landing a right hand on Carl. And the two 1 point cards

I'm of the mind that fixes happen more then we care to think but not many go this badly.

If it helps, he took a knee as soon as Foster waved it off.

[nuggetdotcom]

Well regardless of whether anything was fixed, Groves certainly had every chance to win. I do wonder if he'd taken a knee right away, whether the ref would have still waved it off. It really did look like he'd been waiting for a chance to imo.

I was thinking the same thing or maybe touch his glove to the mat but @erics44 made a hell of a point in another thread. Essentially, that he was never in any danger prior to the actual stoppage so the taking of a knee or touching a glove would have not entered the air space. I'm sure that if he knew ahead of time that he was about to be a victim bad call he would have done so. Based on the evidence had he taken a knee before that moment when he was buzzed, the ref would have stopped the fight while he was landing a right hand on Carl. And the two 1 point cards

I'm of the mind that fixes happen more then we care to think but not many go this badly.

If it helps, he took a knee as soon as Foster waved it off.

It was a dirty fix, keep posting it!!!!!!

Anybody got video footage of Eddie Hearn during the 1-2 round interval? He obviously got to the judges and referee, shitting himself that Groves would walk away with Hearns main assets (Froch's belts).

Hearn is bumming up a rematch, from which he can't lose, and he's also trying to line up ward next week (as if he thinks ward is too thick to have seen both Groves destruction of Froch and Hearns corruption) on the telly.

In some respects you have to feel sorry for Carl Froch, he could well have gone on to win that fight, as he has before from behind, and he would have avoided all this controversy. It just goes to show, that cheats never prosper, and that if the proper rules had been observed we would have all had a good nights boxing.