Tomasz Adamek vs Evander Holyfield

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The fact that Adamek has had any success at HW speaks volumes for his determination, he got his ass whipped by Chad Dawson at 175 ffs and was in some other wars there.

[ruthless rocco]

...and i thought i was the biggest moron around here!

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Power puncher is a lot smarter than Max Power, in his defence.

[Max Power]

Relax... I also think Holyfield wins but I do think he wins UD not KO.

Adamek isn't THAT bad, come on. He lost to Vitali Klitschko at HW... Who hasn't!

The punch bag bit might have been a little wind up sure but I didn't think the thread was THAT outrageous! LOL

[bzkfn]

Not even close prime for prime. Holyfield would dominate and stop him. Adamek is not bad by todays standards but Holyfield would've eaten him alive.

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Relax... I also think Holyfield wins but I do think he wins UD not KO.

Adamek isn't THAT bad, come on. He lost to Vitali Klitschko at HW... Who hasn't!

The punch bag bit might have been a little wind up sure but I didn't think the thread was THAT outrageous! LOL

An old Lennox Lewis is one guy who hasn't Evander was in the same class in his prime. Adamek didn't come close to winning a round against Vitali, I don't think he deserved the nod against Cunningham in either of their fights and that's the best boxer he can ever claim to have beaten. I'm not sure it wouldn't be a competitive fight if this happened today with Holyfield training in aqua fit and tai chi classes at the seniors home.

[Max Power]

Of course Holyfield is a legend

Well I agree Lennox Lewis would be able to KO Adamek like he KO'd Botha. But I also think Tomasz would have performed well against some guys who beat Holyfield, like John Ruiz, Michael Moorer or Chris Byrd.

Of course I can't see him besting Bowe or Tyson either though LOL that's obviously a stretch!

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Of course Holyfield is a legend

Well I agree Lennox Lewis would be able to KO Adamek like he KO'd Botha. But I also think Tomasz would have performed well against some guys who beat Holyfield, like John Ruiz, Michael Moorer or Chris Byrd.

Of course I can't see him besting Bowe or Tyson either though LOL that's obviously a stretch!

Holyfield was OLD when he lost 2 of those fights, you didn't ask whether Adamek would've been able to perform well against that guy. If you had, I think he'd still lose clearly, as he would against any of those 3 others for that matter. Beating Holyfield on his best night wouldn't have been more likely than beating a post prison Tyson no matter who you are talking about, and Moorer and Bowe in the 90s were great HWs. This thread is basically your admitting that you think so highly of Vitali, that anyone who went some rounds with an old version of him could have beaten anyone who was around 10 years earlier

[ruthless rocco]

Relax... I also think Holyfield wins but I do think he wins UD not KO.

Adamek isn't THAT bad, come on. He lost to Vitali Klitschko at HW... Who hasn't!

The punch bag bit might have been a little wind up sure but I didn't think the thread was THAT outrageous! LOL

I think you should do all the work @Max Power ...because what you're proposing is so stupid.
1- what were each of their respective "primes"?
2- who had they fought AND defeated in their respective "primes"?
3- have you ever watched a boxing match...ever?

[Morgan-B-Howell]

Holyfield had an amazing career (wish he'd retired a long time ago though). He could punch at Heavyweight alright. Ask Tyson, Bowe etc. etc. etc.

He may have been 14 1/2 st to 15 1/2 st but he was "carved out of granite" at that weight. He had hand speed, technique, great movement, power, chin, massive heart and a champion's mentality. Which is why he had the career he had. There were better fighters at the time "on their day" but overall I think he deserves to go down as one of the best ever.

There isn't the competition around today that could compare with the best fighters of the 90s in the HW division.

[Max Power]

Well I do rate Holyfield one of the best of all time and in fact he is one of my favourite boxers but I also think a lot of you guys are painting too large a gap in talent between someone like Adamek and someone like Holyfield.

You think Adamek is not fit to be an opponent of Holyfield, obvious by your snide remarks. When in actual fact the fight would not resemble a "beat-down" at all.

Adamek doesn't rank anywhere near Holyfield either in terms of h2h or greatness in my book the same as yours but the actual gap in their talent is not so great that Tomasz would be a punch bag for him.

[Bo-Bo24]

I've never got what people rate in Adamek. He's been very lucky with points decisions in his last few fights. And against a prime Holyfield he would stand no chance. They're not even close to being in the same league!

[Max Power]

Well DarkLordAl, since it's accepted that Adamek is a bit out of depth today against the Klitschko's who far outsize him, I wondered simply how the forum would see him going against a former great who was more his own size. There was no other agenda, I personally view Holyfield as a modern fighter anyway (he virtually pioneered the term with his once radical but now universal training regime) and believe he clearly bests Adamek as the others here seem to believe as well.

However the response has seemed to skew this thread into a different topic. That HW's today couldn't hold a candle to their ancestors. That's a mistake! Or a very biased view.