Tomasz Adamek vs Evander Holyfield

[ruthless rocco]

...and i thought i was the biggest moron around here!

[p4pking]

Power puncher is a lot smarter than Max Power, in his defence.

[Max Power]

Relax... I also think Holyfield wins but I do think he wins UD not KO.

Adamek isn't THAT bad, come on. He lost to Vitali Klitschko at HW... Who hasn't!

The punch bag bit might have been a little wind up sure but I didn't think the thread was THAT outrageous! LOL

[bzkfn]

Not even close prime for prime. Holyfield would dominate and stop him. Adamek is not bad by todays standards but Holyfield would've eaten him alive.

[p4pking]

Relax... I also think Holyfield wins but I do think he wins UD not KO.

Adamek isn't THAT bad, come on. He lost to Vitali Klitschko at HW... Who hasn't!

The punch bag bit might have been a little wind up sure but I didn't think the thread was THAT outrageous! LOL

An old Lennox Lewis is one guy who hasn't Evander was in the same class in his prime. Adamek didn't come close to winning a round against Vitali, I don't think he deserved the nod against Cunningham in either of their fights and that's the best boxer he can ever claim to have beaten. I'm not sure it wouldn't be a competitive fight if this happened today with Holyfield training in aqua fit and tai chi classes at the seniors home.

[Max Power]

Of course Holyfield is a legend

Well I agree Lennox Lewis would be able to KO Adamek like he KO'd Botha. But I also think Tomasz would have performed well against some guys who beat Holyfield, like John Ruiz, Michael Moorer or Chris Byrd.

Of course I can't see him besting Bowe or Tyson either though LOL that's obviously a stretch!

[p4pking]

Of course Holyfield is a legend

Well I agree Lennox Lewis would be able to KO Adamek like he KO'd Botha. But I also think Tomasz would have performed well against some guys who beat Holyfield, like John Ruiz, Michael Moorer or Chris Byrd.

Of course I can't see him besting Bowe or Tyson either though LOL that's obviously a stretch!

Holyfield was OLD when he lost 2 of those fights, you didn't ask whether Adamek would've been able to perform well against that guy. If you had, I think he'd still lose clearly, as he would against any of those 3 others for that matter. Beating Holyfield on his best night wouldn't have been more likely than beating a post prison Tyson no matter who you are talking about, and Moorer and Bowe in the 90s were great HWs. This thread is basically your admitting that you think so highly of Vitali, that anyone who went some rounds with an old version of him could have beaten anyone who was around 10 years earlier

[ruthless rocco]

Relax... I also think Holyfield wins but I do think he wins UD not KO.

Adamek isn't THAT bad, come on. He lost to Vitali Klitschko at HW... Who hasn't!

The punch bag bit might have been a little wind up sure but I didn't think the thread was THAT outrageous! LOL

I think you should do all the work @Max Power ...because what you're proposing is so stupid.
1- what were each of their respective "primes"?
2- who had they fought AND defeated in their respective "primes"?
3- have you ever watched a boxing match...ever?

[Morgan-B-Howell]

Holyfield had an amazing career (wish he'd retired a long time ago though). He could punch at Heavyweight alright. Ask Tyson, Bowe etc. etc. etc.

He may have been 14 1/2 st to 15 1/2 st but he was "carved out of granite" at that weight. He had hand speed, technique, great movement, power, chin, massive heart and a champion's mentality. Which is why he had the career he had. There were better fighters at the time "on their day" but overall I think he deserves to go down as one of the best ever.

There isn't the competition around today that could compare with the best fighters of the 90s in the HW division.

[Max Power]

Well I do rate Holyfield one of the best of all time and in fact he is one of my favourite boxers but I also think a lot of you guys are painting too large a gap in talent between someone like Adamek and someone like Holyfield.

You think Adamek is not fit to be an opponent of Holyfield, obvious by your snide remarks. When in actual fact the fight would not resemble a "beat-down" at all.

Adamek doesn't rank anywhere near Holyfield either in terms of h2h or greatness in my book the same as yours but the actual gap in their talent is not so great that Tomasz would be a punch bag for him.

[erics44]

IMO adamek is one of the most over rated boxers of this current era when it comes to the weights above light heavyweight

problem is when comparing you have to consider holyfield enjoyed his best form when he was juicing

drugs asside at HW holyfield would batter him prime for prime

[p4pking]

Well I do rate Holyfield one of the best of all time and in fact he is one of my favourite boxers but I also think a lot of you guys are painting too large a gap in talent between someone like Adamek and someone like Holyfield.

You think Adamek is not fit to be an opponent of Holyfield, obvious by your snide remarks. When in actual fact the fight would not resemble a "beat-down" at all.

Adamek doesn't rank anywhere near Holyfield either in terms of h2h or greatness in my book the same as yours but the actual gap in their talent is not so great that Tomasz would be a punch bag for him.

Yes it is, as was the gap in physicality and boxing skills. Adamek has never been a great HW ever, there is no "prime" version of him to even talk about here. He couldn't have hurt Holyfield with anything or outfought him for 5 seconds, and he's been in serious trouble against much lesser and smaller men. He did well against Arreola because Cris couldn't land repeatedly or follow up on anything, Evander would have found him easily and torn him apart. Nobody ever came close to beating Holyfield without the ability to hurt him unless you look at the old man. Byrd would have maybe always given him a run, but he was a much better boxer than Adamek, who fought nothing like that.

[Morgan-B-Howell]

Well I do rate Holyfield one of the best of all time and in fact he is one of my favourite boxers but I also think a lot of you guys are painting too large a gap in talent between someone like Adamek and someone like Holyfield.

You think Adamek is not fit to be an opponent of Holyfield, obvious by your snide remarks. When in actual fact the fight would not resemble a "beat-down" at all.

Adamek doesn't rank anywhere near Holyfield either in terms of h2h or greatness in my book the same as yours but the actual gap in their talent is not so great that Tomasz would be a punch bag for him.

I understand what you're saying. There are plenty of people who don't really rank with Holyfield's class or level or achievements obviously but that doesn't mean they wouldn't cause him problems. E.g. Bert Cooper.

[Bo-Bo24]

I've never got what people rate in Adamek. He's been very lucky with points decisions in his last few fights. And against a prime Holyfield he would stand no chance. They're not even close to being in the same league!

[El Kabong]

Prime for Prime? Evander would hammer the crap out of Adamek.