Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
Roach sounds almost desperate to make the fight now. It is as if he knows that Manny needs to cash out before he retires, the signs are there that Manny is not the fighter he use to be.
Manny has ALWAYS been the same with marquez.
All fighters get worse (not inc hopkins)

I agree that roach is desperate but he always has been.

Hopefully, pac can avenge his defeat to bradley and his devastating ko to 40yr old marquez and then in 2015 there could be a chance..if bob arum allows it.